Some Windows 10 Pro PCs are suddenly no longer activated

Discussion in 'Computers, Hardware, and Operating Systems' started by KX4OM, Nov 8, 2018.

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  1. KT1F

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    I don't really follow what you're saying. I don't get what my post, talking about Microsoft Visual Studio Code, has to do with Java.

    It is true that VS Code has some ambiguity and confusion about the license which I hadn't noticed before. The source code is MIT licensed which is very permissive. The compiled binary that you can download from Microsoft has a proprietary license. If you don't like the Microsoft license then you can always compile it from source or download a MIT licensed binary from this project Neither license has any restriction on commercial use.
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  2. W9FTV

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    Ubiquiti wifi. It *just works*. I had one years ago and for unfathomable reasons I replaced it with a Nighthawk along with several others. They all just sucked.
    Slow speeds and constant disconnects. When I replaced the wifi router with the Ubiiqiti router all the problems went away. They're an enterprise networking company, but they're now making 'home' gear that's head and shoulders above the rest.
  3. NK2U

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    Did the exact same thing here! Sorry to note that the developer of Classic Shell has stopped updating it. Good for Win 8.1 but not Win 10.

    de NK2U
  4. KB0MNM

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    I guess that I just need to spell it out- Microsoft has absorbed all sorts of products, then slowly worked toward their own proprietary versions, then decided after time to start charging for those same products. Now Oracle is about to start charging for some Java packages. I can imagine Microsoft soon doing the same with Visual Studio. Here are a few examples of products 'from Microsoft' that were not exactly 'first to market': MSDOS ( there were others ), Paint ( some folks remember Paintbrush ), Windows ( Apple was doing the 'Windows' thing before MSWindows ), Terminal ( Very similar to Ward Christensens X-Modem program with a less user-friendly feel ), Excel ( Visicalc was around first ), and more. Your post dealt with VS being 'given away for free', which it is- for now. If I remember correctly, writing in "C" was also not a proprietary system- at introduction.
  5. KT1F

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    The source is released with a MIT license. How could that ever stop being free? I guess Microsoft (or anyone else) could fork it and sell a non-open "premium" version which the MIT license allows.

    I have no reason to defend or promote Microsoft, I seldom use any if their products these days but my first post was simply answering the somewhat flippant question of "when has Microsoft ever given something away for free?". I think VS Code answers that question quite nicely. It's free, seems to be widely praised even by people not particularly favorable to MS and the source is released with a very permissive license that ensures it will continue to be free.

    Yeah but those were mostly before the open source movement. My example of VS Code with MIT license, source on GitHub and accepting code contributions from anyone is surely a little different.

    I don't know what the MS grand plan is but I think it's kind of cool to see non MS people contributing Those at the top are MS employees but further down they are not. The other examples you quote had nothing remotely like that.
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  6. N2UHC

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    I just put it on a Windows 10 machine here.
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  7. NK2U

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    Didn't they put the start button back in win 10? Did you need it?

    de NK2U
  8. N2UHC

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    They did, but I like the Classic Shell menu better than the Windows 10 menu.


    I think, as a web developer, I’m not too pleased with the changes that Microsoft made. However, for half a year working in VS Code, I didn’t have any problems, except perhaps with optimizing my code for modern standards. If you believe the site, all issues of optimizing Windows 10 will be resolved with subsequent patches, but we all just have to accept the problem of licensing. These are the realities of the time, alas.
  10. AB9LZ

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    May I recommend Ubuntu?

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