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Discussion in 'On the Road' started by KL7AJ, Apr 19, 2018.

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  1. W3ATV

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    I agree and disagree. As a vocational educator I have seen the ebb and flow, or the ups and downs of the trades and how it is linked to the economy. When one sector takes a hit other sectors may do better.

    I have seen auto technicians do well when the economy is down because people hold on to their old cars longer.

    I have seen electricians and carpenters get laid off when the economy is down because lack of investment in new construction.

    I have seen home improvement people do well when the economy is down because people improve instead of buying a new home.

    Plumbers- don't ask me why but they always seem to do well! A lot of money in $#!+. Nurses too!

    The list of examples could go on............

    The vo-tech I work at (23 years) graduates everyone from carpenters to cooks, welders to machinists, nurses, dental assistants, electronic technicians, auto technicians, HVAC people, etc. We have over 40 programs and every one of them has had its ups and downs through the years.

    On the other hand many of my friends (college grads) have had their share of layoffs, middle management squeeze outs, job losses due to mergers and acquisitions, and of course economic crashes. How did all those bankers, mortgage brokers, stock brokers, etc. do during the last big crash?

    The last time I did my taxes with an accountant he was moving into an office with half the space because turbo tax killed his business. There are just as many white collar examples of ups and downs as there are blue collar.

    I think every job- blue collar, white collar, college required or not has ups and downs. One thing for certain- anyone who keeps themselves up to date and marketable can usually survive the ups and downs. 40 year careers doing the same exact thing are mostly a thing of the past. Stay ahead of the curve and you will usually survive.
  2. K3XR

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    Likely to be educated in a technical school.
    Likely to be indoctrinated in a college/university.
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  3. N4MAV

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    As someone who was in the trades myself, I vote for doing the trade school. There are several of the trades that don't have any layoffs. Welders, plumbers, electricians, machinists/toolmakers, and the list goes on and on. Or go into the service of your choice for schooling and then into collage after your four year hutch is up paid for by the Government. That is how my Son did it,he went thru xschool on my GI Bill and after that expired he paid as he went for the credits he needed. During the service, no matter where they stick you you can make rate, pass the next exam for whatever trade you wish and get into that department. They will send you to A, B, C schools (Navy, not sure of others) and you come out with your school credits you can put onto a degree. Win win. I know that welders in particular are in high demand anymore as no one wants to be one? My Nephew is a certified pressure welder and makes big money, hows $92,00o a year after 7 years sound? And he lives in a very depressed area on the Ohio/Penn border.

    Which ever way you decide have fun doing it and don't stress to much. :)
    Russ Abbey, N4MAV
  4. N7WR

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    This is a tough one because I can see both sides. In the area I have lived for the past 16 years the shortage is in trained technical types rather than those with college much so that the local school districts, community college, and even the state university 40 miles from here have combined to create a technical institute to turn out the mechanics, electricians, etc. that are so much in demand but have limited supply in the region.

    My wife and I both achieved post grad degrees. In my case a Masters helped me advance in my chosen profession not so much because of what I learned but because hiring people with advanced degrees gave employers bragging rights. My wife's PhD led her to teaching at the University level but she eventually tired of the leftist environment which tried to force her to teach from an agenda rather than from fact. The home based business (technical) she began a few years ago could easily, if she wanted to devote full time to it, be more profitable than her years as a college professor.

    My 3 sons all have BA degrees and it helped 2 of them quickly achieve upper management positions. The third son is the creative one in the family with outstanding business instincts. He has founded, grown and either sold or franchised a number of businesses and his net worth is likely more than the rest of the family combined. Our youngest, a daughter, was a straight A student through high school but intentionally stopped her formal education at the AA degree level. She is in a public safety profession where she makes very good money and, more important, thoroughly enjoys what she does without the pressure of having to advance to a higher position. There are other things in life she enjoys rather than the almighty job. So part of the answer depends on what your value system is and whether career advancement (which often requires increasing education) to the extent it minimizes time for other things is worth it.

    Finally, I had the advantage when earning my BA degree to attend a University that taught HOW (not WHAT) to think--to reason, to question. There was no indoctrination as there is in many 4 year schools today and that, IMO, is a huge difference. Education is one thing. Indoctrination is another
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