RTTY With No Computer?

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  1. AE7BT

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    Because ham radio is my way to “unplug,” so to speak, I run a classic boatanchor station and computers are banned from the shack. Since I sit in front of a monitor all day at work I like it that way. Does anyone here do RTTY using old telex machines instead of computer programs like MTTY, etc? Is this even practical?
    Can you still get the paper for your machines?
    I like the idea of RTTY, but only if I can do it sans computer. Is there a way to do this? Thanks.
     
  2. NE1U

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    What you are saying is that you live alone. ;) VERY NOISEY
    Finding parts and maybe just finding the paper tape could be challenging.

    I feel your nostalgia. I dream of having a full Drake station and a bug (more noise). But, I am happy living w/o knobs & push buttons ... and noise.
     
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  3. AE7BT

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    I don’t live alone, but I do live with someone very understanding and patient. ;)
    I have a partial Drake station (TR-4cw, MN-4...the MN-2000 is on the Swan 500c) just for CW and a Vibroplex bug.
    I make noise.
     
  4. W9GB

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    Yes, Yes, Yes.

    K7TTY is a good resource in Renton, WA.
    http://www.k7tty.com/

    RTTY Electronics is run by Paul Cembura, who for many years sold and serviced Teletype machines, and is now a walking tower of Teletype knowledge.
    F8A7B061-7F35-4CA0-A00C-D6533C003CD4.jpeg
    http://www.johnwhitney.com/misc/paul-rtty.htm

    RTTY Electronics
    Paul Cembura, owner
    PO Box 20101
    El Sobrante, CA 94820-0101
    USA
    Telephone +1 510-222-3102
    E-mail: mr_rtty@pacbell.net
    ==
    John Nagle (Emerald Hills, California) performs Teletype restorations.
    http://www.aetherltd.com/index.html
    The SteamPunk / Victorian artistic movement (as well as Hollywood and private productions) has preserved many machines.
    ==
    Teletype Paper ??

    PM Company, L.L.C
    9220 Glades Drive
    Fairfield, OH 45011
    Toll-free within USA +1 (800) 327-4359
    Telephone: +1 (513) 825-7626
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018
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  5. K3XR

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  6. AE7BT

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    Thank you for your awesome response. Just the info I was looking for!
    Is it wrong that I like those Steampunk terminals? Not “historically correct” but pretty cool.
     
  7. W1VT

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  8. AF7TS

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    You might also re-frame your 'no computers' stance.

    I totally get not wanting a screen, keyboard, mouse, etc. running an OS with lots of distractions, connected to the internet...

    But dedicated embedded computers might very well have their place. Decoding RTTY with an arduino and sending the output to a dot matrix printer, for example.

    Just something to consider. To be very clear I am not calling 'no computers' wrong; just offering a suggestion.

    According to wikipedia, the original baudot code was intended for _manual_ transmission, using a special keyboard with 5 keys on one hand (for the code) and 3 on the other. Computers are certainly _not_ needed. You could probably rig an analog circuit that lights up a set of 5 LEDs, and learn to manually parse the code. (Remember that Morse code was originally designed to be sent mechanically, detected on paper as printed dots and dashes, and then translated to text. Human parsing of the code was an afterthought.)

    73
    Jon
    AF7TS
     
  9. W9GB

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    Steampunk is a subgenre of science fiction or science fantasy that incorporates technology and aesthetic designs inspired by 19th-century industrial steam-powered machinery.
    This has expanded to include mechanical devices (manual or early electric).
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

    Steampunk Workshop
    http://steampunkworkshop.com/keyboard-shtml/

    As we passed through the Centennial, a number of historical documentaries have shown a renewed interest in Edison versus Tesla (1890s) and America’s Guilded Age (1870-1901) — described by Mark Twain.

    Micheal Garrison’s Wild Wild West (1965-1969) renewed interest in the Victorian era with insertion of ‘007 mystique and 20th century projections of Jules Verne (and H.G. Wells) technologies.

    A number of television and film productions to feature Steampunk and/or focused on the Victorian and Edwardian eras, including:
    Stargate series franchise; Syfy channel’s Warehouse 13 (2009-2014); George Pal’s The Time Machine (1960); Christopher Nolan’s The Prestige (2006), Neil Burger‘s The Illusionist (2006).

    Julian Fellowes (Downton Abbey) is creating a new series, The Guilded Age, for 2019.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/...l?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018
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  10. AG6QR

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    I don't know if it meets your objectives, but the Elecraft KX3 can do RTTY with no additional computer. You can send with paddles and view the received text on the radio's LCD.

    Purists may point out that there's a little computer inside the radio.

    I do admire the old noisy hardware, and I wish I had room to consider acquiring and using it, but alas...
     

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