Here is my situation: I have a 23-year-old Toyota Corolla that is regularly serviced and still runs very well, and that I intend to drive until the wheels fall off. It is my daily driver, and the car that I take out of town when my wife is not joining me. On this car, I have a Comet UHv-6 mounted with a pretty robust lip mount on the trunk. This gives me serviceable coverage (for my purposes) on 70cm, 2m, 10m, 20m & 40m. I have this antenna guyed and is holding up quite well--with the help of some blue thread-locker. I bought, tuned, and tested the 80m coil for the UHV-6, but it is only barely serviceable, it would only be able to be used if I forego 40m, and it is just too heavy to put at the top of that antenna. For 80m, I use a hamstick. Just because I had the bits and pieces to do it, I have it mounted on the opposite side of the trunk from the Comet on an NMO mount with a 3/8 adapter. I guyed this antenna as well, and it has held up with no real problems or visible flexing of the sheet metal on which it is mounted. This still is not ideal, both for reasons of security, and because it is not a permanent installation. The hamstick stays off for most the week, and is only put up when I am traveling at night (about 2 out of every 3 weekends). Getting the guying right just takes too long with it going up and down that often. Anyone have any ideas about a mount that would be strong enough not to have to guy the hamstick? Is guying the hamstick necessary even if the mount is exceptionally strong? I have slung and bent it every which way with it off, and I really cannot see how the whip would ever break. I also take this thing off and examine it about once a week. Let me make everyone aware that I have a good understanding of exactly how bad an antenna the 80m hamstick is. However, it works quite well for my purposes--<300 mile conversations while on the road at 1:00am. I am not completely adverse to a different antenna, but realise that it would be replacing a $25 antenna that currently works well.