RASA proposes 60m trial in VK

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by G4TUT, May 17, 2019.

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  1. G8ADD

    G8ADD Ham Member QRZ Page


    That's dumb. If you don't ask, you don't get.
     
  2. VK4HAT

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    What is even more dumb is speaking without understanding the situation. The ACMA have put 60m back on the agenda in the draft 5 year outlook and they will open it for discussion in the 3rd or 4th quarter of this financial year. So some time early in 2020. Until then, all stunts are meaningless because they just are not listening. That, and we just do not know what the terms of reference will be.
     
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  3. VK2YMU

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    I have to laugh at your reaction, carefully read your response, its a personal attack upon my comments.
    My point is that RASA that consists of two individuals that used to be on the board of the WIA are intent in the destruction of the WIA, an institution that represented AR since the 20's.
    The fact you chose to sit on the fence without taking a position other than belittling me, speaks volumes, thus I dismiss your rant for what it is..

    As the other poster mentioned, RASA is just posturing, like a rooster during mating season, has no real representation and the 60 meters band is just a tool for them to in a deceiving way attack the WIA, but I guess you are too busy with self interest to note this.
     
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  4. VK2YMU

    VK2YMU Ham Member QRZ Page

    You are doing a pretty good job.
     
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  5. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is probably a little misleading to infer that there are 530 registered ACMA licences in Australia within the ITU 60 metre ham band (5351.5 kHz to 5366.5 kHz).
    Almost all of these 510 registered licences are on the single channel 5365.0 kHz USB (5366.5 center) and consist of a single organisation entity with many stations: Queensland Fire and Emergency Services.
    This is obviously a very important and widely-utilised emergency channel in the Queensland region.
    So, it is rather unlikely that 5365.0 kHz USB (5366.5 center) would be made available for hams in Australia, even on a non-interference basis Secondary allocation.

    But, that still leaves open the possibility that Australian hams could obtain a "Secondary non-interference basis" allocation for at least one channel (or perhaps a sliver) somewhere between 5351.0 kHz and 5365.0 kHz.

    A close look at the ACMA Register of Radiocommunications Licences between 5351.0 kHz USB and 5362 kHz USB reveals the following short list, and 3 gaps where there are no ACMA licences registered:

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    Frequency USB [assigned bandwidth] Licence Entity
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    5351.0 kHz USB [5351.0-5354.0] Lloyd Helicopters Queensland and Australian Federal Police Woomera

    5354.0 kHz to 5355.0 kHz (a 1 kHz vacant gap, unknown)

    5355.0 kHz USB [5355.0-5358.0] WIA/WICEN and Ambulance Service of NSW

    5358.0 kHz to 5360.0 kHz (a 2 kHz vacant gap, unknown)

    5360.0 kHz USB [5360.0-5363.0] Royal Flying Doctor Service remote Meekatharra Western Australia

    5363.0 kHz to 5365.0 kHz (a 2 kHz vacant gap, unknown)

    5365.0 kHz USB [5365.0-5368.0] Queensland Fire and Emergency Services, etc

    Note: The 2 kHz gaps above and below the 5360.0 kHz USB (RFD) channel may be considered a buffer zone, or perhaps a legacy of 30 to 50 years ago when this was originally a 10 kHz wide AM channel.

    There are other ACMA channel frequencies in the 5 MHz spectrum (outside the ITU 60 metre band) that should be looked at.
    Careful research and assigned bandwidth spectrum mapping could reveal open gaps, in the same way that the above list has shown some gaps.

    There are countries where Amateur Radio has only 1 or 2 of their domestic 5 MHz assigned channels that coincide entirely or partially within the international ITU 60 metre band.
    UK, New Zealand, USA, and several other examples.

    Some others countries have domestic 5 MHz assigned channels which don't coincide at all with the international ITU 60 metre band.

    So, Australian hams should not give up hope that there is an eventual solution for a few channels on 5 MHz.
     
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  6. VK4HAT

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    Of course there is a solution, its waiting till ACMA reopen discussions and consults with stakeholders as outlined in the draft 5 year outlook. Nothing is going to happen until then, no matter how many stunts rasa pulls. This is not a it will be fixed tomorrow thing, this will take time, and with acma this might be a couple of years yet. And the end result might be just like last time, the Military says no.
     
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  7. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    In January 2017, ACMA added Amateur Radio Service to the Australia Radiofrequency Spectrum Plan 2017, page 35 (Australian Table of Allocations).
    Click here to download the document.


    Part 2 - Table of Frequency Band Allocations.
    In the Australian Table of Allocations column, it shows 5351.5 to 5366.5 allocated to Amateur.
    So, at least there has been some ACMA spectrum management planning activity for 60 metre Amateur, although as of 2019, it has not gone into effect yet for Australian ham operators.

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  8. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Here are the ACMA Registration channel licences, with the assigned bandwidths listed in a spectrum map.
    5245 kHz to 5458 kHz.
    It appears that there are many possibly open channels.

    Data source: ACMA public website.
    Spectrum map image source: KQ6XA.

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  9. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Continued.
    Here are the ACMA Registration channel licences, with the assigned bandwidths listed in a spectrum map.
    5245 kHz to 5458 kHz.

    Note: Not shown on this spectrum map is the Defence (Jindalee) allocation at 5325.0 kHz to 5425 kHz (5375 kHz centre, 100 kHz bandwidth).

    Data source: ACMA public website.
    Spectrum map image source: KQ6XA.

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  10. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Continued.
    Here are the ACMA Registration channel licences, with the assigned bandwidths listed in a spectrum map.
    5245 kHz to 5458 kHz.

    Note: Not shown on this spectrum map is the Defence (Jindalee) allocation at 5325.0 kHz to 5425 kHz (5375 kHz centre, 100 kHz bandwidth).

    Data source: ACMA public website.
    Spectrum map image source: KQ6XA.

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