Question about TS-430s and additional PCB installed.

Discussion in 'General Technical Questions and Answers' started by N0CTL, Apr 25, 2019.

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  1. N0CTL

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    I have this problem. I see an old Kenwood radio and I have to have it. Maybe some of you can sympathize? I picked up my latest radio, a reasonably clean TS-430s, which has been tested and I know it works with rated output on all bands.

    Naturally, I do my usual assessment and cleanup of any newly acquired radios and determine which mods, if any. that may have been performed, and look for any other obvious issues. Its a fairly complete radio, including the FM board, and all the filters, with the exception of the AM filter. When I got to the bottom side of the radio to look at the RF unit PCB, however, I noticed this small, 1"x2" PCB installed between the front panel and the RF unit PCB



    This board make its connections to the control-unit at D36, and on pin 14 of IC13 (VCC I assume), and as well as pin 5 (EQL) of CN16


    I'm not familiar with this board and I'm wondering if others might have some idea as to its purpose.

  2. N0CTL

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    And yes, in that first image, there are two wires next to this mystery module that have been clipped. A purple wire and a gray wire. I haven't traced them yet to see where they go.
  3. KA0HCP

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    The National IC CD4027 is a Dual JK flip-flop. Obsolete but still available.
  4. N0CTL

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    Those clipped wires go to connector 10, which seems to be used with the mod to open up the out-of-band transmissions from 1.6-30 MHz. In the pic below, I have the connector 10 plug removed to get a better look at things. Rather than remove the plug, it seems the previous owner just cut the wires from pins 2-TX1 and 3-WRX. I'll revert this mod

    [​IMG]IMG_0508 by John Scherer, on Flickr
  5. N0CTL

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    Yeah. I got that one. It seems that whoever produced these boards sanded the labels off the other two chips, which leads me to believe that this was a commercial product.
  6. KD8DEY

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    At least it's not a Roger Beep...
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  7. K7TRF

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    Does one wire run to the VFO? IOW, could it be some form of VFO stabilizer like a huff n puff or X-Lock with that flip flop serving as a reference frequency divider? That tall cylinder near the flip flop looks like it could be a crystal serving as the timebase reference.
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  8. WR2E

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    At first I thought maybe tone encoder... for 10M FM... doesn't seem to be in the audio line though, does it?
  9. VE7DQ

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    Could this board be a speed reducer for the VFO tuning? One of my Kenwoods (probably the TS-440) has such a device, but it was homebrewed point-to-point wiring.

    I doubt that it would be a huffnpuff; it would be totally unnecessary in a synthesized TS-430.
  10. WG8Z

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    I'm going with the huff and puff.

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