Question about Estate Sales ads

Discussion in 'General Announcements' started by K9DTC, Apr 29, 2016.

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  1. AK9S

    AK9S Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    When I see the phrase "estate sale", I will tend to stay "far" away. Not really a wise marketing statement for any seller. As mentioned, it gives the perception the seller does not know the "true" condition of the item being sold (i.e. other than cosmetically and of course, "it lights up when plugged into the wall.") If a seller does not want to give assurances, then mentioning "estate sale" fits the bill. However, will the seller accept returns? Who pays for your return shipping cost when the item fails to function as expected? Why would a Ham seller not know the "true" condition of an item (a legitimate question which may carry many reasons behind it)? Many things to consider, especially when the seller cannot or does not want to thoroughly test anything listed from the "estate sale". To me, such items for sale hold "minimal" appeal, as I have to assume they may not work and the pricing posted usually assumes they do.
    Last edited: May 3, 2016
  2. W8GP

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    First off, to me "estate" sale means nothing, good or bad. It just doesn't matter. But its obvious by reading the replies that there is quite a difference in perception of the phrase. A little off topic, but this example illustrates how peoples perception can affect a sale. I had 2 Heathkit '102s that were given to me so I decided to have some fun. I listed them on flea-bay, one I described accurately as to it's operating condition, the other I listed as "untested estate sale find". Which do you think sold for more?:rolleyes:
  3. KG7CSS

    KG7CSS Ham Member QRZ Page

    I used to do estate sales to sell on Ebay. When I think of an estate sale it always selling the estate of a deceased person or rare living estate sale.
    There are two types one ran by professional companies that are mostly over priced and ran by scam artist. The other type is are by relatives. The later one can find deals because the family do not know the real price or they know but are motivated sellers in order to get out of the house.
  4. KC9UDX

    KC9UDX Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    I think it means that it needs an alignment, that the knobs are stuck, and that it might need power supply considers.
  5. W4IOA

    W4IOA Ham Member QRZ Page

    When I see "estate sale" mentioned in the ad, I assume (correctly or incorrectly) that the item was bought for pennies and being sold for dollars. It also screams to me that the item is not in good working order. Same goes for the words "untested", it "lit up when plugged in" , it "worked great when it was placed in the barn 20 years ago", and that the item most likely isn't in working order.
    I may only have been in ham radio for 7 years but why is it so common for a ham to sell something without testing it? Any item I have sold I have cleaned it up, blew out the circuit board if needed, plugged it in for a few days, and most likely hooked it up to a oscilloscope to see what is going on. If it's a radio, it takes a couple of minutes to hook it to an antenna and see if I can make a contact. I may even call a friend to listen for my call and tell me how it sounds so I know if the tx/rx is good.
    I've bought a lot of used gear, but I won't pay for something that I don't know if it's working or not. If I can't hear it operate or get a guarantee of it's functioning, it better be cheap...real cheap.
  6. KC9UDX

    KC9UDX Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Sometimes I avoid the tested ones.

    I've seen eBay ads where a guy takes a picture of the transmitter output power needle pegged and no antenna plugged in. "Has full output. Tested for 15 minutes!"
  7. WD0BMS

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    Usually with farm machinery and household goods sales, estate sale means things are being sold to settle the affairs of the deceased. If the person took exceptional care of their things or they or their family was well liked, neighbors will pay a little extra. Sort of like giving a donation to help out the survivors.
    Generally with ham gear, relatives and family are non hams and have no idea how to even market the deceased hams equipment. Usually a ham friend of the deceased will volunteer to dispose of the items and get as close to a fair price as he can for the benefit of the deceased's family. The friend will list them as estate items meaning he is not making money himself but rather selling them as a favor to the heirs.
    At least that is the way most of us out here in the sticks still do it.

    73, Dave WD0BMS
  8. N6OIL

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    I wish I could reply to some of those adds and tell them they are way overpriced.
  9. N3VEM

    N3VEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    A couple people hit on it, but bottom line from my understanding - in every type of sale / auction / etc - ham radio equipment included - estate sale means that they selling the stuff of someone who died, no more no less. This is normally for liquidation purposes, to make spreading assets among those listed as benefactors in the will easier. Sometimes you get stuff at a bargain and sometimes you don't, but the "estate" part has nothing to do with the pricing - that's just up to the person selling the stuff. In a true estate sale the person selling the stuff is named in the will, or appointed by those named in the will, to handle the sale.

    Vance N3VEM
  10. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I did get a bit disappointed when a ham sold me a SKs radio claiming to be helping the widow out.

    He did not give her all of the money, he told her the radio was not worth very much.

    Needless to say he lost a lot of friends doing that BS.

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