QRZ Callsign Database Policy Change

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  1. 2M0CDD

    2M0CDD Ham Member QRZ Page

    I agree, the popularity of QRZ.com is amazing. Even those who do not use it, or the internet, know of its existence. As to, 'could I live without it'. Yes, I could. I dont have my rig hooked up to my computer, indeed, there is no computer in the shack, so I just keep a paper log next to the rig. Later in the day, or maybe a few days later, I enter my contacts into HRD. Sure, Its a big help auto-loading the fields. But do I need all that data? What do I use that data for? I 'think' I need all the data that qrz provides, but the reality is, I don't. I use the data to generate a qso map via the HRD system to display on my own web site, and on my profile, here, at qrz.com. When you have a certain number of qsos, the map looks jumbled, and meaningless. Of course, I can use google earth to provide a scalable presentation, but is it useful? Again, it can all start looking overloaded with too much information. I use the data to show friends, neighbours who have a curiosity about amateur radio, so my maps must be clear, not overloaded. So for me, the usefulness with all this data is limited. It is all to do with what you use the data for. I don't contest, I just like the odd ragchew and chase DX, so other users of the qrz.com service will have vastly differing requirements. Yes you are correct, it is a major convienience, but for me, not a necessity. The paper logs still have all the essentials I really need.

    Wondering if others could pitch in with how they use qrz.com. I genuinely find this a fascinating topic.
     
  2. VE3PP

    VE3PP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    This was copied from the Subscription Info right here on QRZ.

    How much does it cost?

    QRZ offers a number of subscription packages to suit your budget. Our popular XML Logbook Data subscriptions are reasonably priced at just $29.95 per year.


    So where does the $59 come from that some are talking about?:confused:

    For 8 cents a day I will gladly pay the XML subscription. If I log 5 QSO's a day using the QRZ data base to get the information of the station I am working that works out to 1.6 cents for every log book entry. Well worth it to me instead of hand typing all the info into the log file.

    For those who are logging more contacts than I am then it is a bargain to say the least.

    EIGHT CENTS A DAY. What else can you get for 8 cents a day when it comes to ham radio?
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2011
  3. VE3PP

    VE3PP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I am sorry, but I have never quite understand this "I am a fairly new ham and don't have tons of money" statement.

    So you think that after being a ham for 10 years you will suddenly have tons of money? :confused:

    Being a new ham or an long time ham does not dictate how much money you have. Your job and lifestyle dictate that.

    If you can not afford the 8 cents a day for the XML then don't sign up. However please do not expect a free ride from the owner of QRZ. This is a major league website with lots of traffic, bandwidth, and it is costly to operate. Not to mention time consuming.

    As I sit here typing this I am working a VK station on 40 meters JT65. I simply typed in his call into the HRD logbook, hit QRZ and there is his information. Now how sweet is that for EIGHT CENTS a day. ;)

     
  4. VE3PP

    VE3PP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I am sorry, but I have never quite understand this "I am a fairly new ham and don't have tons of money" statement.

    So you think that after being a ham for 10 years you will suddenly have tons of money? :confused:

    Being a new ham or an long time ham does not dictate how much money you have. Your job and lifestyle dictate that.

    If you can not afford the 8 cents a day for the XML then don't sign up. However please do not expect a free ride from the owner of QRZ. This is a major league website with lots of traffic, bandwidth, and it is costly to operate. Not to mention time consuming.

    As I sit here typing this I am working a VK station on 40 meters JT65. I simply typed in his call into the HRD logbook, hit QRZ and there is his information. Now how sweet is that for EIGHT CENTS a day. ;)

    There used to be a saying when I was young "Grass, Gas or Ass, nobody rides for free" That old saying still holds true in this day and age. Too many people feel they are entitled to hand outs whether it be from our Governments or someone else.

    If you can not afford the subscription rate, I understand that. But please do not complain and say it should be free.
     
  5. OH3GGQ

    OH3GGQ XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I am also in the service providing business and therefore I totally understand and support your new action...I was just wondering for a few days, why my lookup does not work :) Now I know and will take action, because the lookup functonality is really neat!

    OH3GGQ/Sauli
    http://oh3ggq.blogspot.com
     
  6. N1MJF

    N1MJF XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I think non-paying users should now NOT have to see any ads. I thought that's what the ads were for. I'm sure a thousand people would have offered to create an active mirror of the site taking care of the load issue. I would have but now that I'm told I have to pay, I walk away with my head down. I'm poor, I almost have no place to live, I have no employment and I've got melanoma all over, so basically I cannot work and by the time I get on any type of assistance my bills will all be 10 times more due to no payments being made.

    Thanks QRZ for making my hobby cost more. Before all I had to do was make sure the light bill was paid to enjoy my hobby.
     
  7. 2M0CDD

    2M0CDD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Where does this concept of 'Free Ride' come from? Those that do not subscribe have adverts, those that do subscribe, have no adverts. That must say something, or should say something. It is those advertisers that are paying for the service, so it is not free. It is also worth mentioning, that those who do not subscribe, are VERY attractive to the advertisers, for two reasons. 1. none subscribers provide extra relevant web site traffic that advertiser likes, very much indeed. 2. It is the none subscribers that SEE the adverts. In short, without the none subscribers, there would be no advertising revenue. It is not a free ride, someone pays. Could we please put this subscriber/none subscriber snobbery to bed.
     
  8. KD4MOJ

    KD4MOJ Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Thanks for the excellent service Fred (and you too Frank!)!

    ...DOUG
    KD4MOJ
     
  9. NN3V

    NN3V XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Fred:

    I understand the reason for the change, and support your actions.

    I am also glad for replies on how to make some of the logging programs continue to work.

    The whole reason we have software is to eliminate the drudgery of manual input where it is possible to do so.

    I am a registered QRZ user, and contribute $$$ to both QRZ and my logging program developers.

    QRZ and the program developers need to coexist.

    73 de NN3V
    Charlie
     
  10. N3CI

    N3CI XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Unfortunately such a policy has to be put into place. This is a great service to the ham community and I fully support the changes made.

    Dave N3CI
     
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