QRP definition change ?

Discussion in 'QRP Corner' started by W5BIB, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. W5BIB

    W5BIB Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Same thing will work for CW. In my case, I mostly use the Tentec Century-22 @ abt 15w output. I think I'll just start stating my power as: QRP15. Or, for my HW9; QRP4.
    HW8; QRP2. This makes the most sense. This way, I won't feel "guilty" about running 10 watts & claiming to be 'QRP".
    I'll be "QRP10" :) If we had a "Q" signal for; "My power is", we most probably wouldn't be having this discussion.;):p

    77 es 72
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  2. W8ZNX

    W8ZNX Ham Member QRZ Page


    still have my old ARCI membership certificate that shows in bold type
    "QRP 100 Watts or less"
    that was when
    QRPP was 5 watts or less

    have been a nut case for QRP since the 70s when my only rig was a 509 Argo
    the flaw is simply saying 5 watts CW is QRP but 7 watts is not

    someone running 5 watts CW with a expensive radio on 20 meters
    to a 6 el Yagi at 125 ft is QRP

    when somebody running a 15 watt CW rock bound HB rig on 160 meters
    hooked to a scrap wire inverted L is not running QRP

    had an op tell me when im running a HB two tube regen receiver
    with a HB 6L6 rock crusher at 12 watts on 80 meters to a inverted L antenna
    that i am not running QRP

    when they are running a super duper Elecraft three kilobuck rig with band scope

    funny i built a NorCal 20 Red Hot radio kit many years ago
    about the same time built mine a big time East coast OP also built one
    then talked about how many European stations he worked with the rig
    on the first late afternoon he had it on the air
    funny i was not working Europe
    what was wrong
    oh yes he was running a 5 el wide spaced 20 meter Yagi at 125 ft
    i was running a 40 meter loop at 30 ft

    so what is QRP just a power limit

    or is it a way of operating

    kinda think of it as doing more with less
    that includes the kind of equipment antennas ect
    using HB or a real melt solder kit makes it more so

    some how can't see a K3 with the band scope
    with the auto amp if needed right there at a push of a button
    to big Yagi at 100 ft as QRP

    this fall have been working KA9OQJ on 75 meters SSB
    he is using a junker Yaesu that he bypassed the blown finals
    big 12 watts pep to a indoor antenna
    that's sure as hell QRP to me

    so have just sorta given up and don't care what others say or think

    if my 12 watt home brew bread board plug in coil 6AG7 6L6 rock crusher glow bug transmitter
    not QRP
    they can go suck a lemon

    still in the stacks

    PS. do own more than one expensive QRP rig
    the Argo Six is a wonderful radio
    have not so much as turned it on in months
    don't get the same thrill using it
    as i do running the junk box glow bug radios
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2015
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  3. KK4NSF

    KK4NSF Ham Member QRZ Page

    you guys are so correct. QRP is a lot more than a strictly defined power limit. It is a way of thinking and operating.... embracing the "more is less" concept. for me, it's more of a personal thing.... and to be honest, I'm not sure I care what the "QRP Police", rules lawyers, or nitpickers think.

    of course I would never cheat in a contest by running more than the specified power, but other than that I'm sticking with the Mindset Theory.

    by the way: I love the 6L6 tube! I've got a 6L6 transmitter on my desk, built from the plans in the 1937 ARRL handbook. When tuned correctly, it puts out a nice 10w CW
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  4. W4KJG

    W4KJG Subscriber QRZ Page

    I don't think my powerhouse boxes, like my Argonaut 505 is going to put out any additional power if I whisper sweet things in its microphone and give its career a new name!:D

    Any, a GREAT BIG THANK YOU to QRZ for this forum for itty bitty transmitters.
  5. DK7OB

    DK7OB Ham Member QRZ Page

    I like the "less is more" concept.

    I don't "feel" doing QRP when using my TS590SG turned down to 5W. It's just one knob rotation away from cheating. I feel QRP when I am running my home made 2W input TX and direct conversion RX.

    There is the "Original QRP contest" which follows this concept. Only "real" QRP rigs are allowed, and you get a bonus for home made equipment.

    Forgot to say: Thank you QRZ for the new QRP forum!
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  6. KC9UDX

    KC9UDX Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    When I operate mobile from the gas station, I'm QRPDQ.

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  7. W5BIB

    W5BIB Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I just had a QSO with TOM/KB8FYG on 40m CW. After the preliminaries, I sent: hr QRP15 - 15w. He replied with: "QSL ur 15w QRP". It's what I'm gonna do from now on. QRP followed with the power being used. :)
  8. KP4SX

    KP4SX Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I started tinkering with QRP operation back in the early 80s. Back then it was <5w for QRP and <1w for QRPp. Had nothing to do with minimalist operation, crappy antennas or camping in the woods although these things often involve the QRP fun.
    My best QRP rig was an Argonaut 509, hardly a minimalist rig, and I managed to work 160+ countries using a beam. From my home QTH ! :)

    Folks can call it whatever they feel like but just be aware there are fixed parameters for contests and QRP club activities.
  9. W5BIB

    W5BIB Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Screw the "parameters" & such !!! I'm a member of: SKCC #7327, NAQCC #6496, FISTS #15529 & SOC #1133. I'm most probably a very poor example for members of these organizations, but, I have fun. I don't participate in any of the "sprints", "contests" or other "special events"... but I have fun.
    Ain't that what it's all about ?
    I operate CW 100% with "QRP" & can QSO from 40 wpm to 5 wpm with my straight-key or bug.

    See what happens after you've been licensed for over 54 years !!! The thrill for me now, is a QSO @ any speed.
  10. W7CJD

    W7CJD Ham Member QRZ Page

    I think if you want to gather points in a contest running QRP, don't cheat on the rules, use solar.

    Isn't QRPp milliwatt levels?

    Hey! Why isn't this thread at QRP Corner? https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/qrp-corner.107/

    This way, people can find QRP information in one place.

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