Proposal that would have required lighting and marking of short towers revised.

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by K4KYV, Oct 10, 2018.

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  1. K4KYV

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  2. KB7QPS

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    This is good news.

    With modern GPS capabilities both in aircraft and on-ground uses, there is no reason why a database of towers cannot be used in lieu of tower marking requirements.

    Not only are painted red and white towers pretty ugly, their lights in the evening are also a blemish on the night sky. From an architectural standpoint, it makes no sense to mandate visual markings if crop dusters can use tower databases instead.

    Also, no plane other than crop dusters fly at 200 feet. And crop dusters only fly that low during either training or professional work. It is not like having to load a database prior to the days flight is a hindrance.
     
  3. K6CLS

    K6CLS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sounds like you are not a pilot.

    Why do you assume that GPS always works? Why do you think "databases" are accurate? Why do you think every plane has a GPS in it?

    Towers are marked on aeronautical charts. Paper charts. Good enough.
     
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  4. K4KYV

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    My acreage is zoned agricultural, but the farmer who leases my cropland doesn't use crop-dusters, and no-one else has permission to fly crop-duster planes over my property.

    The nearby army base flies helicopters over this area at low altitudes all the time, but my tower is well marked on aeronautical charts. No mishaps in the 37 years since I put it up.
     
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  5. WB2WIK

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    I have a light tower on my disk duplicator here.

    Nobody complains.
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. K4KYV

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    Thankfully, this legislation was revised before the proposed new rules were codified into regulations.
     
  7. N4OGW

    N4OGW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Even a database of 50-200 ft towers seems silly. For example in my neighborhood (which is not too far from a small airport) there are many trees that are 50-200 feet tall, and quite a few that are taller than my 100' tower.

    Tor
    N4OGW
     
  8. KA2RRK

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    So long as every Amateur Radio Service Cheif operator can install a 199 ft tower who cares if it
    requires lights, paint, or for that matter a observation platform? So long as we can get a antenna up to
    a workable height for intended wavelength of operation.

    I am more worried about this kind of posting.

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    KA2RRK




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  9. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well, from their own article:

    Senator Inhofe — himself a pilot — was of the view that the 2016 legislation was excessive and that exemptions should exist for both broadcast and Amateur Radio antennas and support structures. “We worked with our close allies at the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), [who were] afraid that this legislation would have a large adverse effect on short broadcast towers,” Imlay recounted. “We also worked with the Association of American Railroads, which has hundreds of short towers along rail lines in rural areas that would have been affected.”​

    I suspect it was the members of the NAB, and especially the railroads who were the weight behind this. Money talks.

    Additionally, Mr. Inhofe's activity as a pilot keeps him keenly aware of controlling costs associated with aviation. His efforts were key in the 3rd class medical certification reform a few years ago.

    I appreciate Mr. Imlay's involvement in this, but given the significant financial interests involved, the outcome was arguably inevitable.
     
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  10. N3HGB

    N3HGB Ham Member QRZ Page

    GPS info is in NO WAY a substitute for seeing something. I am guessing you have never done low altitude flying.
    73
    N3HGB
    commercial pilot
     

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