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Progressive Changes at the ARRL

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by M1MRB, Feb 28, 2021.

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  1. W5UAA

    W5UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Good Lord. The "facts" are every where these days. You can't "not" see/hear the facts these days. If you turn on a tv, the "facts" are there. If you turn on a broadcast radio, the "facts" are there. If you look at internet news sites, the "facts" are there.

    I will explicitly state it: There will be "equality" in amateur radio licensing. There, I said it.

    Now, that's going to be a pretty inflammatory statement for some. These days, the same words mean different things to different people. And this is one of those words that means different things to different people, especially today.

    Now, I suppose some of you will start asking me what that word means. And then we'll break down into an argument about semantics and I'll see copy/pasted Merriam Webster dictionary entries and/or an argument about at least a couple of other hot topics today which use that same word. I'm going to suggest we drop it, sit back, and watch what happens to the question pools in the next couple of years. There will be plenty to complain about then.

    Remember, we can never go back. We can only go forward. That's progress. If we are not going forward, we are falling behind. The amateur radio question pools need progress. And they're going to get progress. There's only one way forward. And it's pretty obvious to me which way that is. I don't know why it isn't pretty obvious to every one else.
  2. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Some pretty bizarre people inhabit the 'zed.
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  3. KE8QEP

    KE8QEP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    It's rather breathtaking really.
  4. WB1GCM

    WB1GCM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Breathtaking, indeed.

    Just get on the air and talk. We have the best pastime anyone could ask for. For the grumpy, it is what you make of it. if you make it apocalyptical, then it is for you, NOT for me.
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  5. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I don't know what you are talking about. And you continue to want us to 'read between the lines'. 'One way forward'. Well what IS it?

    There is nothing racially, culturally, or sexually, dimorphic about RF waves; RF parts; RF practice; well, RF period.

    Progress in amateur radio can ONLY mean enhanced knowledge, skills, interaction, enablement, and advancement in the radio art. That's what is reflected in the question pools.

    "Progressive changes " in a non- profit may OR may not coincide with that.

    ALL are welcome. ALL are equal. AB INITIO--not by getting a license. It's how you come in ,not what it makes you.

    It's important that the 'face' we project reflect that reality.


    Chip W1YW
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  6. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    W5UAA is entitled to his opinion, but its 100% explicit in his Zed bio that "equality" means "communist". Go have a look.

    Dave, not all who seek 'equality' are communists. Some of us are appreciative that INDIVIDUALS are equal in their OPPORTUNITY--or should be. Throwing artificial barriers on the individual is how some, including myself, see it= tragic. Merit, talent, achievement count. I'm not going to wear stilts while my near Celtics neighbor is going to get his ankles chopped to make us "equal". Jeez, this thread is sounding like a Vonnegutt short story....

    SO let's stop this discussion and keep it elsewhere. But the Part 97 test pool is not going communist.

  7. K0UO

    K0UO Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I definitely support the ARRL, however I also disagree with many of the Boards actions over the years.
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  8. NN5AA

    NN5AA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I know you said "equality". Is that the word you meant to say, or was it "equity" ?

    Are you speaking of "equality of outcomes" versus "equality of opportunities" ?

    Am I correct in inferring that your of the opinion that the Amateur Radio license question pools are going to get even easier than they are now, so that "outcomes" are even more inclusive, basically a lowering of the bar even more for prospective licensees ?

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  9. W5UAA

    W5UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    The same words means different things to different people. The rate of "semantic change" has never been faster than it is today thanks to the current information revolution. Language and culture are intertwined. Change the language and you change the culture. And because of this advanced rate of semantic change today, we are accelerating the natural cycle and outcome of human nature. Human nature is constant. Cultural evolution is constant. And human nature always finds a way to break through the behavioral, cultural, social and religious boundaries currently constructed.

    Look at history.

    All I'm really saying is this "out of the blue" public notice from the FCC is one of these instants. Nobody of importance is paying any attention to it right now because it seems innocuous. Anybody who says anything negative about it is called a crazy conspiracy theorist. My guess is we'll get another VEC or two and that'll happen without incident, too. We may or may not see news articles on what may be a squabble over one of the next question pools. The next question pool will come out and by then, it'll be too late to do anything about it other than complain about where the future of amateur radio licensing is heading based on this new question pool. This is how "progress" is made.

    Look at the history of amateur radio licensing.

    (Yes, it really is breath taking.)
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  10. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    He appears to mean that the question pool will become an indoctrination process for "equality"....

    Again, Guy is welcome to his opinion. But he is quite clear about how he means "equality", as from his Zed bio:

    "Looks like the communists have won. Given the support from the news media and the judicial branch this last election, and the fact that only 20 state AG's have written letters objecting to some of the bills passing through congress right now, it looks like we've already gone over the cliff. The current administration is going ahead full speed and know they only have the current two year election cycle to firm up centralizing all power and control into the hands of the communist democrats in Washington DC. We may achieve "equality" like Venezuela has achieved "equality" within the next 5 or 10 year."
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