Progressive Changes at the ARRL

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by M1MRB, Feb 28, 2021.

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  1. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I think some folks are confused about HPM.

    There was HIRAM MAXIM ('father')



    HPM was a minor inventor who had success with mufflers and the 'Maxim Silencer'. His big passions were ham radio, film making, cars,and writing. His writing resulted in a screenplay that was pretty well known in its day (you can dig out that trivia). HPM was an enthusiast who actually made things happen.

    HM ('Hiram') was a 'Maine'iac who deserted his wife and child and became SIR HIRAM Maxim in England. He was a major inventor , best known for the machine gun, which basically enabled WWI o_O . Less known is his profound mechanical skills and the invention of the STEAM POWERED PLANE, which more accurate JUMPED rather than FLEW before it crash landed.

    HM was wealthy from his patents.

    Folks understandably confuse the two and thus assume that HPM was a very wealthy man. That was actually his father. HPM was 'well off' but not nearly as wealthy as his father.

    I do not know if HPM and HM had a 'normal' father son relationship beyond HPM's childhood years. My recollection is 'no'.

    Hope this helps.
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  2. KM1H

    KM1H Ham Member QRZ Page

    You have been fussing about Wayne just about every time he is mentioned on here and its getting old, stale and boring so stop it please. You didnt really know him and the many things he did to foster ham radio even before 73 Magazine.
    It was nice to see Chip give you a history lesson on the Maxims, that must smart ....Mr Know It All....
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  3. N2EY

    N2EY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not me. I know the history quite well.

    Agreed. Success enough to have financial security, anyway.

    Weren't there Gatling guns as far back as the Civil War?

    In any event, the father did indeed invent the "Maxim gun", which was more portable and, as you note, made WW1 far more deadly. And got very rich from it and other inventions.

    All true. Of course the patents held by the father expired a century ago if not more.

    Also, the father's name is usually shown as Hiram Stevens Maxim.

    Exactly. More to the point, the ARRL does not have oodles of money from the Maxim inventions/patents.

    Well he did write a book about his childhood....

    HPM was a devoted husband and father, according to all who knew him. Far ahead of his time in many ways.

    It should be remembered that HPM's wife, Josephine (Hamilton) Maxim, was instrumental in the advancement of Amateur Radio. Although not an amateur herself, she was fluent in French and accompanied HPM to the World Radio Conferences in Paris in the 1920s, where HPM and others pushed for the recognition of Amateur Radio as a separate radio service, with its own bands and rules, protected by international treaty. The effort succeeded in 1927, when the treaty signed that year set up Amateur Radio by international law.
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  4. KL7SB

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    For what it is worth, if they legitimately qualified for the PPP Loan (and I have little doubt that they did) and qualify for the forgiveness, they are not only correct in taking it, but also have a fiduciary responsibility to do so. We already forget, but *every* business/organization was sweating cash liquidity at the time, and other than those selling Protective equipment, everyone had at least some revenue drop. In some cases it turned out to be temporary, but there was no way to know at the time. There were defined circumstances to use the money (mostly Payroll) and I'm sure that was followed. Remember, this was part of a economic stimulus package. No point in arguing the politics here, but bottom line is a lot of us got through the pandemic without financial ruin, because this money was out there and circulating.
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  5. N1IPU

    N1IPU Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes, Once you take the morality of it out of the equation. Wall St. does the same.
  6. G8FXC

    G8FXC XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    If COVID has hit the profits of either the RSGB or ARRL, then they are doing something very wrong. They are primarily book and magazine publishers. They need have little face-to-face contact with the public and virtually all their operations can be conducted from employees homes. OK, they do represent the ham community in dealings with the licencing authorities and others, but that is not a profit centre activity - if meetings have been conducted remotely over Zoom or similar, then they have probably saved money in travelling and accommodation. Membership will not have been reduced - if anything, it will have increased as bored people unable to travel have looked for new hobbies.

    It's service companies that rely on significant face-to-face contact - like restaurants and hairdressers - that have suffered. The RSGB or ARRL are not in any category that needs government support to get through this.

  7. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Can you say: "FIXED COSTS" ????

    Small enterprises, whether profit or non profit, have had severe consequences from COVID. As one who has had to navigate same, and heard dozens of horror stories from other enterprises, I think you should be a little more realistic about simplistic cubbie holes on 'weathering the storm'.

    If the ARRL justified their PPP then just be quiet and let them pick up the pieces from a lost (plus) year. There is nothing illegal, immoral, or unethical about it.

    We are happy they are forward looking. Damn pleasant to see in anyone and anywhere these days.

    Try it.
  8. KM1H

    KM1H Ham Member QRZ Page

    I wonder how many sick and elderly hams have succumbed to the Chinese Fflu around the world?
  9. G8FXC

    G8FXC XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    But why has there been an impact on their income? Subscriptions are paid a year in advance. Has membership dropped significantly? Have book sales dropped? Have their operating costs gone up significantly? I seriously fail to see why their bottom line should be hit noticeably by COVID. I would be seriously displeased if the RSGB had taken any government money in this last 12 months when there are thousands of other businesses that have been hit very hard by this...

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  10. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why don't you review the public reporting of their financial statement for 2020 and then report back to us.

    Otherwise it is a speculation with an unsavory implication of wrong doing.
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