As an even older saying goes - "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." Before we can work on the problem, we need to understand it. Standing up and accusing the other side of laziness or senility does nothing to solve the problem. Yes, new hams really need to know that there is much, much more to ham radio than what they studied in the Technician manual. We established hams need to reach out to them, and draw them into our clubs, and introduce them to other publications and activities beyond yakking on the local repeater. And, we need to understand that not all newbies, maybe even most of them, will not be interested in the same things we are. I'm a wacko for digital modes, and I know a number of other folks who are too. All you need is a computer with a sound card and a simple interface you can build in a few minutes. But I'm amazed at how many other people want nothing to do with it - they just want to 'talk' on the radio. I try not to be discouraged! The newbies need to understand that there are many, many established hams out there who are very willing to help when they can. Most of us are anxious to share our knowledge. Here's a place for newbies that will provide real help... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HamRadioHelpGroup/ An excellent group of people, new and old. Yes, you will occasionally receive some preaching about how you should learn the code - learn to live with it - those of us who know the code know how much fun it is, and we know what you're missing. But, nobody is going to twist your arm. If you need a question answered, this group will try. Also, don't overlook the help forums here on QRZ - they are excellent.