Discussion in 'Amateur Radio Clubs' started by AC9SF, Jun 30, 2018.

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  1. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    We always start club meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance , followed by a prayer.

    We are jus a bunch of gud ole boys in the deep South (flyover country).

    Heck, I used to tournament fish for Bass, one club even did the Pledge of Allegiance in the boat assembly area prior to every tournament.
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  2. KT1F

    KT1F Ham Member QRZ Page

    Would a foreign atheist socialist like me be welcome?
  3. KV6O

    KV6O Ham Member QRZ Page

    And I guess it would matter exactly who/what you're praying to!
  4. KA0HCP

    KA0HCP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Don't find offense where there is none.

    For anyone who does not wish to participate, "BE A GENTLEMAN" and stand or sit quietly.

    Good manners are not promoted much in today's society. Do your part to encourage them.
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  5. W5LZ

    W5LZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    If you don't feel any allegiance to this country, fine, sit down and shut up. If you don't 'hold' with praying, fine, sit down and shut up. If you don't feel that way then that's fine too. Now, sit down and shut up. That's the 'cleanest' way I know of saying it. Don't like it? ... guess what...
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  6. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    That is way cool. Especially before eating.

    Most of the new generation has no respect and think everything should be free.
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  7. WD0BCT

    WD0BCT Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Some of the reliance upon the pledge may have to do with the building the meeting is taking place in. I've been in many clubs and looking back on it the pledge was usually stated if the building was a public bldg, i.e.; a Library building, a VFW Post, a school, etc. I don't recall stating the pledge in a personal residence.
    Beginning a meeting with the pledge in a public building sounds totally reasonable to me.
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  8. KV6O

    KV6O Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yikes, that's sure inclusive and friendly!

    I have never been to a ham club meeting that started with the Pledge. I have attended ham club meetings with foreign ham visitors (VU2RBI for example), and would never treat them that way if we DID recite the pledge. I DO recite the Pledge at other meetings, and I DO respect the wishes and views of others, something this Country protects, for which I am grateful. I would never tell someone to "sit down and shut up".
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  9. WD0BCT

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    I don't think the KV6O treated anyone badly. It just said if you don't wish to partake in the pledge for whatever reason just respectfully concede to those who do. You may find his words offensive but they are directed toward those taking offense to the pledge or public prayer. It actually states that it's OK regardless how you feel toward the pledge or prayer...just show some respect.

    For a nation so wrapped up about being PC it's amazing what people take offense to. Being PC is a charade and really boils down to being an ideology battle.
  10. AF7XT

    AF7XT Ham Member QRZ Page

    Appropriate? Yes. Required? No. Offended ?
    My avatar Is my 1973 FLH parked in front of Old Glory at Tahoma National Cemetery in Maple Valley Washington.
    There is a head stone just over the top of the right handle bar mirror. It marks the grave of my younger brother.
    My opinion is my own and my reasons have nothing to do with anyone else.
    I swore an oath that has not been rescinded to this day. I don't necessarily need a reminder of that oath.
    Non sibi sed patriae
    So with or without the pledge is fine by me. If someone is offended that is their opinion.
    You could ask me what I think about someone that is offended by the pledge ...
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