Operating on 60 meters

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by WY4K, Mar 15, 2019.

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  1. K4AGO

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    Bill, Thinking about your query... What else can you do on FT8 except collect points?

    I am 72 years old which according to other posters in the forums means good for nothing except complaining about my gout and lumbago. I certainly can't do that on FT8, so points collecting is all It is good for.

    John
    K4AGO
     
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  2. KP4SX

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    Yeah, same thing with DX pileups.
     
  3. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    @N1FM is here - now its a party! :p
    That wouldn't come close to even covering costs of USPS Certified mail to all involved 60m amateur users if FCC sent NAL for alleged potential FT8 infractions for just this year. :eek::D
     
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  4. W0PV

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    Here is a problem with the "points collections" objection on 60m.

    Besides contests, special events, IOTA or whatever harmless amateur related activities, guess what else is a "points collection" event?

    The ARRL Simulated Emergency Tests. - "The ARRL Simulated Emergency Test is a scored nationwide full-scale emergency communication exercise involving ARES, NTS, and others."

    Government users of 60m, MARS, SHARES, FEMA, have run "interoperability" tests on the band with hams, with a delightfully whacker tactical codename Black Swan 18 :rolleyes: , and "ARRL Field Organization teams have been invited to adapt this activity as the basis of their annual (scored) Simulated Emergency Test (SET)." :eek:

    Not advocating contests and such outside of their current amateur allocations, just sayin' that using the IARU declaration for justification to declare 60m a WARC band doesn't fit.
     
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  5. N1FM

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    And every NAL/FO would cost the government about $100,000+ with a ROI of maybe, 2% or less, max?
     
  6. WA9SVD

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    And remember, THOSE funds go to the treasury's General Fund, and the FCC sees not a penny of it.:(
     
  7. N1FM

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    Here let me get that for you Larry!

    https://www.itu.int/search#?ex=false&q=WARC&fl=0&target=All

    There's this little searchy doo-dad on the top o' the page and you type in your question and a magickal genie provides the answer! I didn't know what you were looking for because I forgot my Wizard's hat, but I highlighted the most relevant WARC sections for you.

    Anything else? Coke, Pepsi, Cheeseburger?
     
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  8. K0RGR

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    I didn't get anything from a search on that web page for 'WARC contest'. I would not really consider 60 a WARC band, rather , it is a very special case, and I agree that contesting is wildly incompatible with 60 meters as it currently exists. NTIA gave us those 5 channels for the express purpose of emergency comms, and in particular, interoperability with government stations - something that gets tested from time to time. We need to be good "guests" there.
     
  9. N1FM

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    Good assessment. I agree. Can you imagine a weekend of 5/9 and all the splatterbox ops on 60 meters? I shudder to think.
     
  10. K8JD

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    I heard that SOTA on 60M and thought it was in poor taste to go there.
     
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