ad: M2Ant-1

Operating on 60 meters

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by WY4K, Mar 15, 2019.

ad: L-HROutlet
ad: l-rl
ad: Left-3
ad: L-MFJ
ad: Subscribe
ad: Left-2
ad: FBNews-1
  1. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    No reason to expand or expend effort with inconsequential 60m or other Part 97 rules minutiae.

    The 60m FT8 MINI BANDS are working just fine !!! :cool:
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  2. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    No doubt. I have several in my log.

    Then again, I followed the rules and centered at 1500Hz above the suppressed carrier frequency given by FCC. Many of the others on the channel did not. :oops:
  3. KP4SX

    KP4SX Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Well, everybody can't sit at 1500 at the same time. Would sitting at 1550 or 2050 really be a technical violation? You're only 55-60 Hz wide.
    The channel is presumed to allow a 2.8 kHz wide SSB signal which has modulation info scattered right across that bandwidth. I think the parsing of the wording is not justified in this case.
  4. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Indeed. The link provided by @W0PV covered that, as well:

    The requirement of only one signal per channel remains...
    Yes, a single SSB signal with its passband centered as described by the rule.
    It's not parsing. It's the requirement of the rule.
    WU8Y likes this.
  5. KP4SX

    KP4SX Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    They have my address if they want to send me a Pink Ticket, renegade lawbreaker that I am.
    W7UUU likes this.
  6. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    That's the approach that many are taking.
  7. KP4SX

    KP4SX Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I refuse to accept that I'm guilty of an offense if I operate other than 1500 on "5357".
    W7UUU likes this.
  8. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Again, that's the approach that many are taking.

    If you don't accept what I'm saying, you're arguing with FCC, not with me, because it's their requirement. ;)
  9. WY4K

    WY4K Ham Member QRZ Page

    When I tune up on 60 meters, can I set my usb frequency and hit the tune button on the ic 718 for the automatic tuner or do I have to move to the cw freq before I hit the tune button?
  10. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Now my old rig certainly is not a precise instrument, and it's drifty. Don't know how accurate or stability the PC sound card is either. However, what is more interesting is the relative frequency differences of stations with which QSO's are made.

    Lets check out memorialized records of some recent 60m action below.

    OH! Look its @KK5JY calling CQ. Looks like Matt's signal is close to that centered slot, starts out in my passband at 1436 hz, goes up as high as 1454hz. Ahhh, close enough.

    2019-02-20 00:02 5.357 MHz FT8

    000430 0 0.1 1436 ~ CQ KK5JY EM16
    000515 -1 0.1 1437 ~ CQ KK5JY EM16

    Calling some DX! :) but no joy :( Better luck next time.
    000615 -4 0.1 1440 ~ <YS1/AA4NC> KK5JY

    More CQ's,
    000830 3 0.1 1446 ~ CQ KK5JY EM16
    000900 5 0.1 1448 ~ CQ KK5JY EM16

    000915 -10 0.1 1319 ~ KK5JY NY3B FN20
    000915 1 0.1 1447 ~ KK5JY N7BD EM36

    One is nearly zero beat, so he gets the first nod, very compliant ...
    000930 2 0.1 1449 ~ N7BD KK5JY +13
    000945 1 0.1 1449 ~ KK5JY N7BD R+01
    001000 -2 0.1 1451 ~ N7BD KK5JY RR73

    Ah but the one calling off slot, NY3B, down the band a whole 128 hz. That's definitely a different slot.

    But he gets a QSO too!
    001030 -1 0.1 1452 ~ NY3B KK5JY -11
    001045 -13 0.1 1324 ~ KK5JY NY3B R+09
    001100 0 0.1 1454 ~ NY3B KK5JY RR73
    001115 -17 0.1 1326 ~ KK5JY NY3B 73

    So how far off from the absurdly proclaimed single "60m slot" can somebody call and get a "legal", ie, not out-of-compliance QSO ;) with a stickler for the rules? The world wonders ...

    Remember, @KK5JY said "Since when is it argumentative to encourage people to follow the rules?" Making QSO's with them is certainly not such encouragement. :confused:

    Suit yourself, stay on a self assigned slot in the Mini Band, strike a proud Puritanical pose. :p

    That will make an easy target to find or avoid and reduce the chance of possible QRM on the DX. :D
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2019

Share This Page