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Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by KI7HFH, May 20, 2020.

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  1. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

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  2. W8BE

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    Since you have not upgraded after 4 years what makes you think a no license approach will work. It's obvious you have a minimal interest in Amateur Radio if you only limit your self to a tech license. Worry about things you can change not things you can't.
     
  3. VK6ZGO

    VK6ZGO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Your original point was all built around radios that could only operated on fixed frequencies in the amateur bands.
    This is why posters made the comment about "high dollar " gear, as normally channelised radio equipment is pretty much specialised.
    Amateur Radio equipment is generally tunable across the designed band.

    As soon as you bring "cheap baofengs off amazon" up, you open up another can of worms, as they are not "locked down" to amateur frequencies.
    They often come with random pre-programmed frequencies, or "wide open".

    Somebody with no knowledge could easily, (& people who don't care or are ignorant, already do) end up with a nice little "chat frequency" with their friends, right in the middle of the "Airband", or on a Military frequency.

    This could end up costing a lot more than the miniscule cost of a licence test, or, depending
    upon what havoc you inadvertently wreak, you could end up in a prison cell as "Bubba's new special friend".

    People with higher level licences in VK often unfairly characterise our "Foundation" licences as
    "coming out of a cornflakes packet", but they, at least have to learn the band limits, how a radio
    works (in simple terms) & even carry out a practical test of their capability to operate an amateur radio.

    What you are suggesting is much closer to CB radio.
    Even in that service, people, in its heyday, didn't stick to the legal channels, as you are assuming your "no test" amateurs would,------"sliders"were common, as was the use of modified amateur radio equipment( with VFOs).

    Other hobbies require specific tested knowledge, -----gliding, for one, requires an approprate licence.
    Boating (in VK) requires your boat to be registered, & if you want to use the thing on the sea , you personally, need a so-called "skipper's ticket", which is really at a similar level (in its field) to the Foundation licence.

    To fish in inland waters, you need a recreational fishing licence.
     
  4. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page


    No, government:eek: is worse: there is NO cure or treatment.:rolleyes:
     
  5. K0RGR

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    No test, channelized operation. That really already exists in GMRS, MURS, and classic 27 MHz CB. GMRS is really too restrictive. MURS has far fewer limitations and is licensed by rule, like 27 MHz CB. The Technician License authorizes the holder to do so much more. Maybe you didn't understand all those questions on the test about those other things?

    Amateur radio has a few basic tenets, one of which is that the licensee must demonstrate some level of specialized technical knowledge. Now, I agree that having all the test questions and answers published reduces the appearance of such knowledge - too many people simply memorize everything and remember it just long enough to pass the test. This isn't new - we all did it back in the 60s, too, but we memorized the License Manual's sample questions and answers, which were good enough to pass the test, and a lot easier to memorize. Still, I find it shocking that a licensed ham would place so little value in the knowledge gained to get that license. Disturbing, it is.

    Still, you can find the radio capability that you seek in those other services. GMRS licenses cost $$$ and limit who you can talk to. MURS and CB require no license, but are limited to low power.
     
  6. K5MIL

    K5MIL Ham Member QRZ Page

    Then they really were not serious about getting a license.

    Bill - K5MIL
     
  7. K5MIL

    K5MIL Ham Member QRZ Page

    If they are so lazy as to not want to invest the effort to learn a little (very little) theory and rules to get a license, the ham radio service is better off without them.

    Bill - K5MIL
     
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  8. K5MIL

    K5MIL Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sounds like you would be much happier on 27 mHz.

    Bill - K5MIL
     
  9. K5MIL

    K5MIL Ham Member QRZ Page

    We do not need numbers just for the sake of numbers.

    Bill - K5MIL
     
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  10. W9RAC

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    It's been a steady progression to that since the 90's. The ARRL who has been the main "pusher" of such should be proud of the efforts they have accomplished. The slow progression of removing requirements and license classes will indeed/and has had the ultimate result as you describe. 73 Rich
     
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