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Number of radio amateurs in France

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by G4TUT/SK2022, May 29, 2019.

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  1. SM0AOM

    SM0AOM Ham Member QRZ Page

    If memory serves my right, the exam requirements have been quite stiff, and the bureaucratic process of getting a licence slow.

    Also, it appears that amateur radio was not supported by the French Authorities in the way it was in other European countries.

    73/
    Karl-Arne
    SM0AOM
     
  2. F5ILS

    F5ILS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Is it a sign of denigration even more pronounced for the future concerning our hobby or where the movement of the yellow vests is there for something , so probably politicals effects for the minister
     
  3. F4HZS

    F4HZS Ham Member QRZ Page

  4. AE5GT

    AE5GT Ham Member QRZ Page

    whats that got to do with tax and fees ? We dont have any renewal fees but we still have regulations ,exams , and ect. the only legal right you get from paying fees and taxes is the right to pay more fees and taxes. Amateur Radio exist not because we pay fees and taxes but because it fufills a need and or purpose. If there is no need or purpose for us to exist , the FCC will take our spectrum away , as it has done in the past , payment of fees is irrelevant.
     
  5. SM0AOM

    SM0AOM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Here we see the differences between countries that still operate a regulated telecom market, as opposed to those that have deregulated.

    The US is still one of the most regulated telecom markets in the world, which gives amateur radio a measure of protection, as the actual market value of radio spectrum is not assessed directly.

    In deregulated markets, every spectrum user becomes weighted according to their perceived value to society and their economic contributions.
    Every spectrum user has to "earn its keep" in one way or another.

    When detailed regulations were the norm, it was possible at any time to point at the ITU Radio Regulations where amateur radio has its own definition, and no further questions were asked. Our spectrum access privileges were taken for granted.

    In the deregulated world, if a user is deemed important enough to pay for its spectrum access, there is some amount of legal protection, as payment implies that some form of contractual relation or legal standing exists.

    When deregulation finally makes its breakthrough at the FCC, I would predict the following to happen concerning amateur radio:
    • The examination and licencing processes will
      become entirely disconnected from the FCC
    • Issuing of licences and callsigns will be taken over by the ARRL (or some other private entity)
    • The callsign database function will also be taken over
    • A single licence class with lifetime licences
    • There will be fees for issuing a callsign and for vanity or special callsigns
    • No more support from the US Government at global and regional spectrum management events.
      The ARRL and IARU are sector members of the ITU, but lack voting rights
    • Possibly reduced VHF/UHF bands
    • No enforcement, except privately funded and organised
    "Your mileage may vary"

    73/
    Karl-Arne
    SM0AOM
     
  6. F5ILS

    F5ILS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hi all
    Yet the cw exam is removed for several years in France to acced onto the hf bands
    who is in question ?

    73 Laurent
     
  7. VE2TH

    VE2TH Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Hi all,

    Well here in Canada, we have no annual fees since the year 2000. The only fee is for the newbie who passed succesfullty his exam and apply for a callsign,
    the fee is : $60.00 CAD once in his lifetime. Later on after 5 or more years, the newbie is elegible if he want to apply for a 2 letters call, with another $60.00 CAD, again one in his lifetime.

    What happen to his first call, ? He keep it, That's it.-

    As of today, june 19, 2019, there are "79,492" radio amateurs registered in Canada of which are 19128 in Québec Province Only.-

    These numbers do not correspond to the number of "INDIVIDUALS" actually holding licences because:

    1- Clubs

    2- Repeaters

    3- Beacons

    4- Multiple call signs owned by some radio amateurs,

    5- Call signs of hundred deceased (silent Key) radio amateurs.

    Item no. 5, this is just a part of the problems. and here is why:

    Since there are no more normal renewal fees for licences, the great majority of the families of deceased radio amateur neglect to inform or just simply do not know they should submit a notice to:
    ISED Amateur Radio Service Centre where the complete address appear below.-

    That's the reason of so much silent key in different callbooks and database including QRZ.COM.

    Now this one is very interesting and very special:

    In RIC-9 - Call Sign Policy and Special Event Prefixes it is said, if no family member give advice of a silent key , this way the silent key stays
    into all the data base, and therefore, do not become available. It can stays there for years.

    But ISED Amateur Radio Service, have a solution for this:

    All call signs which were not cancelled, become available for reassignment when current year equals the certificate holder's birthdate plus 125 years!!!

    You can access the RIC-9 and other informations at the address shown below.

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    That being said, you get what you pay for!!


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    The address for Innovation, Science & Economic


    Development Canada is



    ISED Amateur Radio Service Centre 2 Queen Street



    East, Sault Ste. Marie, ON P6A 1Y3



    e m a i l a d d r e s s : i c . s p e c t r u m a m a t e u r -



    spectreamateur.ic@canada.ca Telephone Toll free:



    1-888-780-3333 Fax number: 1-705-941-4607

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    To SM0AOM I agree 100% with you, with others
    some have very good points.

    There are many other problems with this situation, but it could be in an other post.

    All the very best to all,

    73 Mike VE2TH



     

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