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North Carolina is working on a "Distracted Driving" Bill

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by K4KWH, May 7, 2018.

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  1. KC8VWM

    KC8VWM Moderator Volunteer Moderator QRZ Page

    Practically every new car is equipped with a button on the steering wheel that connects to your cellphone through the car audio system.

    Dialing is achieved through voice commands like "call home" or any other number the cellphone already has stored on it.

    I don't consider my conversation with my rear view mirror microphone while maintaining control of my steering wheel with both hands to be anymore of a distraction than the idea of having a discussion with someone else sitting inside the vehicle.

    As a ham I suppose it might be possible to come up with a Bluetooth interface of some kind that could take advantage of this hands free technology already built-in to the vehicle. Perhaps using the existing microphone in the rear view mirror and the PTT switch could become a button already on the steering wheel.

    A little Bluetooth interface plugged into the data port on the rig could make everything happen and the car will just "think" it's connected to another cellphone.
    Last edited: May 15, 2018
  2. K2EZ

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    Your statement here is contrary to the data. The data shows insignificant level of distraction difference between hands on and hands free when it comes to cell phone conversation. The conversation is not like having one with a person in the car with you as such a person in the car is aware of the surroundings in a way a person on a cell phone can't. That same person in the car also becomes a second set of eyes that compensates.

    Moving from data to opinion/experience, I feel using a speaker phone method like you describe is better than a headset of any form.
  3. K4KWH

    K4KWH Ham Member QRZ Page

    And I'm glad he DID. CB and amateur radio, in and of themselves, are subject to governance by states. And that is the clarification I am asking for. It is now before the Wireless Bureau. FCC did it for us back in '93 over the "scanner laws". I think they will do it again.
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  4. K4KWH

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    And I hate to disappoint you, but I checked on the Texas law, and spoke with Sergeant Bynum, Texas HP (512-556-6390). According to the switchboard who referred my question to him, he is about #1 with Texas traffic laws. The Texas law APPLIES TO CELLPHONES. PERIOD. IF IT USES A *COMMERCIAL* SERVICE TO FACILITATE WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS, ONE MAY USE HIS CELLPHONE FREELY--EXCEPT IN A SCHOOL ZONE! THE LAW PRETTY MUCH MIRRORS NORTH CAROLINA'S. THERE IS NO STATE RESTRICTION ON THE USE OF A TWO WAY RADIO IN TEXAS. NA-NA-NA-BOO-BOO!:p:p:p:p:D

    Check before insulting! o_O It pays to be nice! I believe there is a good chance for Federal exemption.;)
  5. K5MIL

    K5MIL Ham Member QRZ Page

    But they are not worried about driverless cars. Makes sense.

    Bill - K5MIL
  6. K7VZ

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  7. N9LYA

    N9LYA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Are they that brain dead??? Really.. lol
  8. KI4NGN

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    Most people refuse to understand that the distraction is NOT what you're doing with your hands, but what you're doing with your mind.

    Try watching a movie and talking on the telephone at the same time. You're going to miss parts of the movie, or parts of the telephone conversation. Most people will pause a movie to answer the phone if they're really into the movie. Or they'll answer with a quick "I'll call you back." Why? Because they KNOW they can't do both.

    Now don't you think that controlling your vehicle demands at least as much attention as you would give to a movie?

    Talking with a passenger is not the same thing as talking with a disembodied voice. First of all, the passenger can be and often is another set of eyes while driving. Second, if you stop talking while driving, the passenger is a part of why because they can see that you're concentrating on your driving. Not so with a disembodied voice. "Dead air" on a telephone is a pressure on everyone. Why? Because if you're not talking, why be on the phone?!?!

    Everyone thinks they're an exception, they can do both. Many people used to say the same thing about drinking and driving. Studies have shown that people using a phone, hands free or not, are just as impaired from the driving perspective as someone blowing a .08% BAC.

    If the call is important enough to make, then it's important enough to pull over. If it's not important enough to pull over, then why are you on the phone?
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  9. K4KWH

    K4KWH Ham Member QRZ Page

    And it goes right back to.................what? The CELL PHONE. It is the cell phone that is causing the problem, and I agree that it needs regulating. Where is all this "distracted driving" with regard to a two way radio? WHERE was it when there were thousands and thousands of CB radios in cars? Its just NOT THERE. Only upon the advent of the cell phone, texting, and looking at website while driving, did "distracted driving" come into popular awareness. Its about as distracting as performing other little chores while driving, (adjusting the A/C, turning on the car radio, adjusting the power seat, etc. I've asked people to bring forth all this "proof" that two way radios have more than a miniscule effect on driving. All they can say is "cell phone, this..............cell phone that":rolleyes::p
  10. K4KWH

    K4KWH Ham Member QRZ Page

    This comes from the internet and and is a brief quote from Oregon's law:

    "....................Permanently mounted or bolted-on electronic devices are exempted. Also, licensed amateur radio are allowed to use ham radios." I just called Oregon DMV, and again, I am finding out that we are alarmed over nothing. However, there may be, in the future, states who DO attempt to interfere with our privileges, and I want to be able to put the kibosh on that!
    Last edited: May 17, 2018
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