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Non-religious question elk vs arrow

Discussion in 'Satellite and Space Communications' started by KA7FTP, Feb 28, 2017.

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  1. K6LCS

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    Hmmm ... teardown/portability versus performance ...

    At least on the FM voice birds - and ISS packet - I pick the Arrow every time due to its better performance. And as others have stated, just remove the three 2M element pairs, and it is a nice, flat friend. Although I do have the Arrow nylon bag, I have not needed to tear mine down all the way to make it really portable.

    As you have read elsewhere, either is a good investment.

    My Arrow "mods" - a handle and a tray at the end for an HT - are pictured here ...

    http://k6lcs.com/Photos/Pages/Arrow_Mod.html
     
  2. KA7FTP

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    For this round I went for the arrow, I also went for the mfj diplexer. I need to get evything wired up and figure out the tracking software. I'm pretty excited to join the ranks of the "bird watchers"!

    Thanks again for all of your comments. It was quite the concice data dump. In the end it was nealry a coin toss. The gain of the arrow was the deciding factor. All though... I'm convinced I will get an elk to play with some time this summer.

    73

    Len
     
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  3. WA9SVD

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    One easy solution for many such antennas is that once assembled, mark each element at the contact point with the boom with different colored (or combination of colors) with "Sharpie" type felt tip pens. I use this with a portable (HY-Gain 2M antenna) and no need to measure each time. Markings may have to be renewed every few years, after frequent disassembly, but it saves a LOT of time in the field.. Mark the elements and the connection point on the boom With a little memory and color code, you don't need an instruction manual. The markers come in a rainbow of colors.
     
  4. NJ4Y

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    I highly recommend against doing this to your arrow lol... it's unnecessary, and makes it somewhat difficult to properly aim the antenna and rotate it to keep up with the polarity fades from the satellite downlink. The Arrow works great without such mods.
    Congrats on the new purchase. and look forward to hearing you on!
     
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  5. K6LCS

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    Wow ... I guess you haven'e experienced what my orthopaedic surgeon identified as "arrow wrist syndrome" - caused by using the stock foam grip for too many passes with this front-heavy antenna ...

    (grin)

    Adding the hacksaw handle enhanced the enjoyment of this antenna immensely for me. And twisting it 90 degrees is a breeze.
     
  6. W4FS

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    Hmmm...Can't say I've experienced that and I've operated hundreds of passes in the past 6 months with my arrow. Foam grip works fine and dandy...
     
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  7. NJ4Y

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    Ah, there's the difference. I don't use the arrow because I enjoy using the antenna, I use it because I enjoy making sat QSOs, which is much easier to do if you can properly aim/twist. Look forward to hearing you on an easy coast-to-coast SO-50 pass one of these days Clint. :D
     
  8. W5PFG

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    Gosh. I didn't realize Arrow Antennas were front-heavy. Learned something new today from the Internet.
     
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  9. N8HM

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    Use an Alaskan Arrow for a few months. The regular Arrow feels like nothing after you condition your wrist with the Alaskan!
     
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  10. KA7FTP

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    We got out this evening and nearly made a contact!!!

    My wife was opperating the radio using her call, ke7pff, with me pointing the antenna. We learned a few things.

    Things happen really fast. It would have really helped for her to be sitting and to write the calls down. Opps responded so rapidly that we would miss their call.

    I was about 80% good with the antenna. We also kept pretty close on the frequency changes.

    If anyone happened to hear her call let us know!

    This is really really cool!

    73

    Len
     
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