Yes, I know what he wrote in Post #11. But what he wrote there isn’t phrased as a rule would be, it is simply an expression of what his desire is, of what the rule should do... not what it should say. Funny thing is, he is so convinced that I am so “pro” ARRL that I am blind to their flaws. On the contrary, I am very much aware that “they” are not perfect and that mistakes can be made. What he is missing is that if he can actually WRITE a rule in such a way as to achieve his goals, which may just be a better and more accurate phrasing of the intent of the rule, I may just be all for it. Therefore, the point remains... can he actually WRITE the clear & concise rule that he wants the ARRL to use? Or something close to it? Or, is he going to be the old man sitting in the back of the meeting room, complaining about everything but contributing nothing? That he is now making wisecracks about my motives, and pointing to posts that don’t actually answer the question (and that set people off on the proverbial wild goose chase trying to find an answer that doesn’t exist)... well, no point in further belaboring the obvious.