Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by K8KSU, Dec 20, 2017.
Thanks for the correction.
Orlando is very nice. I'm not sure where you are coming from but as someone who has been to Dayton a dozen times in the last 30 years I can honestly say that Orlando is a very nice experience by comparison. I have not been to Xenia but from what I heard from a few friends who did go, they said it was pretty bad, knee deep mud in the tailgate areas, no AC in the buildings, and dirty bathrooms. They all said they won't go back. In all of the years I attended Hamvention, I can only remember one time it didn't rain at Dayton, only one. Ohio is crappy, no decent hotels, crummy restaraunts, no place to park, and the airport is a long way from Xenia.
Orlando is a pleasure by comparison.
You say Orlando is a pleasure "by comparison", yet you readily admit you've never been to Xenia. One of us is confused. My experience of actually being there last year, was different than your friends relayed to you. BTW; I'm not counting Dayton in the comparison, it is now a dead horse, so why keep sinking your spurs into it?
Confused? Let me explain, there are some of us that when a "few friends" tell us that they had a bad experience, we take there word for it. Also it not like his "few friends" are the only ones that have expressed the same OPINION. But it seems that if you do not express a favorable OPINION about your experience at Xenia your OPINION is ridiculed.
I am sure the organizes at DARA would want to hear how Hamvention fell short, rather then everything was wonderful from the "cheer leaders".
Hoping and wishing that it does not rain is NOT a plan for the mud in the flea market, hoping and wishing that it NOT a steamy hot day is not a plan for ventilating the hot tents with fans.
And BTW, NO ONE is criticizing the volunteers, they only expressing their OPINION of THEIR EXPERIENCE or relaying the experience of their friends who attended XENIA.
So I guess it boils down to you have your OPINION, and they have theirs.
It's constructive criticism and I doubt that DARA is being taken aback by the comments.
I've been to Orlando when it was pouring rain and when it was hot and I got sunburned and one year it was so cold that it snowed but I've always felt that the facility is very good and ORC has run the hamfest well. I've never been to the Dayton/Xenia hamfest. I've contemplated it but it's a very long drive to and back from Tampa Bay, FL now that I'm in my 60's.
Facts mean more than opinions. Facts about Xenia vx Orlandofrom personal experience)
1. Orlando roads make it much more accessible
2. Orlando has a much bigger area for flea marketers, and doesn't restrict size of spaces
3. Xenia has more indoor space, but no AC
4. Orlando has many more camping sites
5. Both venues are vulnerable to weather, but Orlando has sand, Xenia has mud
6. Xenia is more expensive for admission and camping
7. Orlando has many more visitor facilities for lodging and eating, and more attractions for non-hams
8. Xenia restricts campers from leaving during the event, Orlando does not
9. Xenia is more centrally located
Make your decision based on facts, not opinions.
Thanks for your input sir, however the clarification I had hoped for was from a totally different callsign, as per my quote. Still you have not convinced me to ever go back to FL. Two strikes are enough for me, a third will never happen. However since your friends all had problems with mud at Xenia, I will bring appropriate attire, just in case it happens this year, or next. At the end of the day, you nailed it, I have my opinion, and "they" have theirs. Guess who's opinion I'm going to run with?
The Hamvention General Chair and all of the Hamvention Committee members take both positive and negative criticism into consideration. But lets remember that we are only in year 2 of a new venue. After one year the Greene County Commission has made a major investment into the Greene County Fairgrounds and Expo Center. Not all of the issues can be worked out in just one year. But with the current lack of venues in the Greater Dayton area and no Investors showing interest in investing in building a new convention center, the County Commission is taking the opportunity to expand and work on upgrades to their facility. Besides building a new structure, they are also going to hire an individual to work fulltime at booking the Expo Center for much larger events then have been held in the past. With more major events being held on the grounds will result in further improvements to the buildings. DARA, Hamvention and the Elected Officials of Greene County are committed to making this a long term home for the Dayton Hamvention, and hopefully many other major events.
One other thing that needs to be addresses. I have read that DARA is only in this for the money. We make several contributions back into Amateur Radio, from supporting other Hamfests, sponsors for major DX Expeditions, Major sponsor for the 2018 World Radio Championship. We make two substantial contributions to ARRL for the Second Century Fund and probably our most important contribution is Scholarships both to ARRL and Local Scholarships for our youth.
So when you attend Hamvention each year, you are supporting our efforts to give back and support the Amateur Radio Community.
The country with the most hams and Xenia is the best we can do for a national hamfest? DARA and the volunteers are trying hard to male this work.