Jim that is very true I felt the TS-480 HX was the most bang for the buck for what I wanted for sure. It had every feature that I wanted in a mobile rig and then some with a big factor of the 200w. I added the Turbo Tuner to it for my Screwdriver and it works perfect just touch the tune button on the radio and it does the adjustments to the antenna quickly. As for the price I paid $1025 shipped from R&L making for a very tasty deal. Kenwood had a $250 coupon along with there low prices to begin with I had decided on the radio before I started shopping prices had planned on paying more. I did in fact work the 6o0cw and Yemen both with the 480 barefoot but in fact did work Yemen on 17m also with my IC-703 Plus 5w all probigation no skill there.