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New Attack on Extra Class Licensees regarding 75 meters

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by NK2U, Nov 27, 2019.

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  1. WE4E

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    My misunderstanding.
  2. W4NNF

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    What? If that's humor, don't quit your day job for standup. :p
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  3. W9BRD

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    You'd have to dislodge MF broadcasting from that region (1500 kHz) now. I'd be happy to get us back down to 1750 kHz or 1715, and maybe back up to 2050 as well. But we're not exactly overcrowding what we have at 1800-2000.
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  4. W9BRD

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    That's not why QEX was established. It was established to create a place where edgier, non-meanstream tech could be published because space in QST was tight.

    You are correct that one couldn't choose to receive QEX instead of QST. That was a non-choice because QST is the official journal of the ARRL and QEX is not. The Official Publication section of the ARRL By-Laws ( ) state that all ARRL members in good standing shall receive QST. (The By-Laws also describe some exceptions to this rule.)
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  5. W9BRD

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    A lot of things were true in the past that aren't true now. The cost of providing services rises over time, and services are added over time. Some of the League's services are actually specialist -- operating awards, the QSL Bureau, Logbook of the World, and so on -- and it's more fair to have users of such services pay (more of) their way instead of having all members subsidize them more heavily through higher dues.

    I'm glad that the League began charging for specialist services. In addition to being fairer to more generalist consumers of ARRL services, it's an indication that League officialdom was paying, and is paying, better attention to the bottom line.
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  6. W9BRD

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    A read of ARRL's current Articles of Association ( ) will indicate that the organization's name has not been changed.
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  7. W3WN

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    You stated that they had re-organized as a new company. (Which was not your last sentence.)

    That is false. A legal name change is not (in and of itself) a re-organization. A change in the slogan is not a legal name change. A change in the DBA (“doing business as”) name is not a re-organization.

    There is nothing more to say that would not risk a “conversation” or worse with the Staff.
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  8. W9BRD

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    No. Agreeing with a stance or viewpoint or policy does not make one "under the thumb" of the person or organization espousing that stance or viewpoint or policy. "Under the thumb of" means "controlled by." ARRL does not control its members -- but you know that. In effect, claiming that one agreeing with the stance or viewpoint or policy of an organization is necessarily controlled by that organization is an ad hominem attack, which we can also see is reflected in your use of the verb parrot. Few debating devices say "I've got nothing" more clearly than going ad hominem.
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  9. W9BRD

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    Hee. Meant "non-mainstream." But I kinda like the typo, somehow.
  10. N2EY

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    If one reads QSTs from before QEX was started, one sees occasional letters complaining that QST was "too technical" and similar. "We're not all engineers" and "most hams do not have machine shops and test benches full of gear, let alone time and training to build their own gear" and more.

    These same arguments were made against incentive licensing.

    And the ever popular "it's [just] a hobby"

    Look up the article "Do It And Rue It".

    Look at old magazines and QSLs and see how few US stations after about 1950 were all or significantly homebrew.
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