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Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KN4AQ, Jan 8, 2018.

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  1. KB4QAA

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    Oh, puhlease! Good English is good English. Don't debase the language with PC fads.
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  2. KF4UCE

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    You know what.....I'll back her statement up with some actual proof. It seems that no one here has ever had one single class in non-profit management, grant writing, or taxation (because yes, non-profits do still pay taxes on some items). Since the ARRL "operates" as a non-profit and they don't qualify for an exemption, they are required to file a full Form 990 every year unless something drastically changes in the organization.

    Here's the excerpt from their 2016 Form 990 that shows their total lobbying efforts:
    I have little doubt that number is going to change much with their 2017 filing.

    I also attached the full Form 990 so you can see all of their expenses including salaries. The ARRL is garbage. We're simply hanging on to them because for what ever reason, people think that in this age of the Internet, Social Media, and a rapidly changing hobby, that we still need an organization that operates as if it's still the 1950's. We don't. The ARRL has simply become irrelevant and I would venture to say that most of the government agencies that interact with them would say the same thing.

    I'll continue the laughing for you, K7QI but it'll be for all the hams that continue to believe that an organization that in my eyes often jams up everything it touches, still makes any difference at all.

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  3. K7WXW

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    This is, in fact, not about a dues increase. It is, in fact, about changes in governance that - just to pick three easy targets - (a) dilute the voting power of members by giving management voting rights that are unusual, (b) restricts a member's ability to know the point of view of the person elected to represent, (c) makes board and management operations more opaque.

    I don't give a damn about dues increases; if the organization represents me and my interests as a amateur radio operator, I am happy to pay them. Unfortunately, the leadership of this organization, which claims to represent me as a member, seems to be focused on insuring that their actions are not subject to oversight or in need of support from that same membership.

    I have no idea who you are or what your background might be, viz a viz corporate management or governance, but if you'd care to debate me regarding the "absolute necessity" of these changes, I'd be happy to do that. 73 de Bill K7WXW
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  4. KQ6XA

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    No, Jim K7QI,
    I certainly won't keep quiet.
    That's not how this forum works.
    Don't mansplain me.

    The facts are, that ARRL execs have spent a boatload of our money under the guise of "Lobbying" with nothing to show for it.
    Some of the so-called lobbying money was spent on things that they wouldn't want the membership to know, and the members will never will know about.

    I've seen those board-packing techniques before, utilized by corporate boards to water down the "shareholders". Usually those are done in privately held corporations when specific shareholders have large investments. But, it isn't a technique that is considered reputable for high profile non-profits (ARRL is supposedly a non-profit) .

    ARRL wants to be the national organization, with international reach.

    ARRL BOD should act like a bona fide national-level corporate entity, and quit acting like a local men's club.
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  5. N0TZU

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    So...they spent a whole $124K (line 1c) for lobbying in 2016, a paltry amount for lobbying...and that is a problem why??

    And what else specifically in the 990 do you think is a problem?
  6. W0PV

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    Huh? o_O Negative copy. :confused: RST 591. :p Y chromosomes are deaf to BAD TONE ! :rolleyes:

    Just teasin'Bonnie! Rock on Riot grrrl !! :D

    73 de John WØPV
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  7. WA3CAS

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    I've been an ARRL member since High School in 1965. Today I'm a lot older and my dues are a lot higher. I keep getting the printed version of QST just so I have something to show for my money.

    I've been looking for an excuse to drop out of the ARRL, and now I have one.

    . . . John (WA3CAS)
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  8. ND6M

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    There, I fixed it for ya
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  9. KK5JY

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    Why does the League have to go toes-up before another organization can be formed? They may claim that they are "the" national organization for AR, but there are several others, and there's no reason why there can't be another in the mix. The last time the FCC issued a large R&O, they not only considered the comments of several organizations and individuals alike, but they quoted several of each in their R&O discussion. AR in the US doesn't need a large monolithic organization.

    Why not have several small organizations, each of which serves its particular members needs and aspirations, and when something big comes along, they can cooperate to address it. Hams cooperate to organize and operate huge contests, build enormous Field Day sites, and construct and maintain enormous linked repeater systems. They should be able to cooperate on something as simple as an RFI enforcement restoration bill.
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018
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  10. KB4QAA

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    Quit beating around the bush. State your claim and 'evidence' clearly. I see nothing in the IRS 990 that shows the ARRL is operating like a 1950's organization (nor is there necessarily anything wrong with that) nor that they are ineffective.
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