Morse Code Dropped in VK - Media Release

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  1. KC7JTY

    KC7JTY Banned QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4CGC @ Jan. 14 2004,02:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not to mention that more people need an all-mode rig at an affordable price. I put out some serious coin for mine.
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    Yes...they are rather spendy. So what is the difference between SSB & FM simplex on 2 meters? (Please don't even think I'm meaning operationally). Aren't they both going to be the same 2 meter BORES?
     
  2. KG4CGC

    KG4CGC Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ Jan. 13 2004,11:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4CGC @ Jan. 14 2004,02:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not to mention that more people need an all-mode rig at an affordable price. I put out some serious coin for mine.
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    Yes...they are rather spendy. So what is the difference between SSB & FM simplex on 2 meters? (Please don't even think I'm meaning operationally). Aren't they both going to be the same 2 meter BORES?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    It was mentioned here on another subject, it is a different world on SSB. A different breed so to speak. I don't believe the frequency being used makes it a bore. I can hear the same boring cussing and arguing on 75m nearly everynight. Is that due to the frequency or the people?
     
  3. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4CGC @ Jan. 14 2004,13:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes...they are rather spendy. So what is the difference between SSB & FM simplex on 2 meters?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Well... Think about it. In it's basic form, FM requires an oscillator, modulated at an audio rate. SSB requires a balanced modulator circuit, (for both transmit and receive,) mixers, and filters in addition, to operate properly and efficiently. And the more narrow bandwidth of SSB vs. FM means the power is more efficiently used.
    So yes, multimode radios WILL be more expensive, because technically, more circuitry is involved. But the range for VHF SSB will be considerably greater than that provided by FM.
     
  4. KC7JTY

    KC7JTY Banned QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4CGC @ Jan. 14 2004,13:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It was mentioned here on another subject, it is a different world on SSB. A different breed so to speak. I don't believe the frequency being used makes it a bore. I can hear the same boring cussing and arguing on 75m nearly everynight. Is that due to the frequency or the people?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Oh yeah....It used to be that way on CB. Now the goons and dim bulbs are on SSB as well. What appeals to one person may be the bain of the other as far as frequency or people go.
    Then again if there are no SSB signals on 2 meters to speak of it certainly wouldn't justify the price of a multi mode rig.
     
  5. KC7JTY

    KC7JTY Banned QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa9svd @ Jan. 14 2004,14:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well...  Think about it.  In it's basic form, FM requires an oscillator, modulated at an audio rate.  SSB requires a balanced modulator circuit, (for both transmit and receive,) mixers,  and filters in addition, to operate properly and efficiently.  And the more narrow bandwidth of SSB vs. FM means the power is more efficiently used.
       So yes, multimode radios WILL be more expensive, because technically, more circuitry is involved.  But the range for VHF SSB will be considerably greater than that provided by FM.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    My SSB CB radio model is currently selling for about $150. Too bad I can't convert it to 2 meters. I absolutely love SSB. Never thought of putting out the $$$ to get a nice 6/2/440 SSB rig only to find that just like the 2 meter/440 FM radios I have, they will hardly ever get used any more.
     
  6. KC7JTY

    KC7JTY Banned QRZ Page

    svd:
    Looks like your ticket is about to expire and.....you are one month older than I. All that additional life's experience you have!
     
  7. KG4CGC

    KG4CGC Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa9svd @ Jan. 13 2004,15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[​IMG]0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4CGC @ Jan. 14 2004,13[​IMG]0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes...they are rather spendy. So what is the difference between SSB & FM simplex on 2 meters?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Well...  Think about it.  In it's basic form, FM requires an oscillator, modulated at an audio rate.  SSB requires a balanced modulator circuit, (for both transmit and receive,) mixers,  and filters in addition, to operate properly and efficiently.  And the more narrow bandwidth of SSB vs. FM means the power is more efficiently used.
       So yes, multimode radios WILL be more expensive, because technically, more circuitry is involved.  But the range for VHF SSB will be considerably greater than that provided by FM.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Well, for some reason it says that is my quote but it isn't.
    Anyway, I think 2m SSB is a real challenge that I would like to explore further. It's fun to learn as you go.
    70cm SSB will be next but it's not at the top of the list yet. 6m SSB, done that. It was fun but the contacts were always very short lived, like 10 seconds. At least I learned that my simple set up got through the pile ups and yes I was courteous and did not speak till the other operator was completely done. Just as I would expect from my fellow Hams. Well, if they were trying to talk over me I would have never of known.
    Guess I should try even harder to learn Morse code by ear. Weak signal sounds like it would be fun too.
     
  8. N0OV

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ Jan. 13 2004,11:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">[​IMG]7--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ Jan. 13 2004,16[​IMG]7)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">help those who took the test use what they tested on may be a good idea.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Not looking for any flames here but I seriously think that the clear majority of those who passed the 5 wpm test will drop that skill like a hot potato on a July afternoon.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Yep -- I was one of them [​IMG]

    I've also been talking with a few folks who use CW on a frequent basis. Starting to regret not hooking up a key when I had the knowledge fresh.

    Hate doing rework.
     
  9. KC7JTY

    KC7JTY Banned QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ Jan. 15 2004,10:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yep -- I was one of them  <!--emo&[​IMG]

    I've also been talking with a few folks who use CW on a frequent basis.  Starting to regret not hooking up a key when I had the knowledge fresh.

    Hate doing rework.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Si Señor, (had to do that.....I'm on the Spanish keybord). Ditto on doing rework. From what I've heard CW is the best & most rewarding aspect of amateur radio. (god help you if you aren't the typical American piece of soft clay and are fully aware of your likes and dislikes ahead of time).
    I personally like real time verbal exchange on SSB. Especially when its a topic that excites me. You don't even have to worry about spelling.
     
  10. ZL1BT

    ZL1BT Ham Member QRZ Page

    [​IMG]3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb6ssn @ Nov. 18 2003,01[​IMG]3)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">WOW! What great news! I can't wait to hear an Australian 12 year old yelling BREAKER BREAKER in the microphone on 20 Meters! This will certainly save the hobby! Just like CB saved truck driving! ROTFLMAO!!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Excuse me, are you having a go at the twelve year old, or the CB (pirate) community? Seems you know the terminology well...
     
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