Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

Discussion in 'Computers, Hardware, and Operating Systems' started by KR4EE, Sep 9, 2018.

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  1. N5AF

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    Linux user for 20 years. Didn't own a PC with Windows on it until 2012. If you decide to make the jump, I wish you the best of luck with your amateur radio applications. While I would love to keep my main PC running Linux for all the radio applications (WSJT-X, Fldigi, SDR software, etc.), it has been my experience that the majority of applications I needed are simply are not ready for prime time (or do not exist) under Linux. I experienced numerous issues of varying severity with the Linux versions of WSJT-X ,Flidigi, CubicSDR and others. The older I get, the less inclined I am to "hack" at making things work for the sake of some religious operating system preference, or getting them to work "half-assed". I used to enjoy the challenge. These days I just want it to work.

    All of my radio-related applications are presently running flawlessly on a Win 10 PC. If you make the move to Linux, I highly recommend those unfamiliar with the operating system start with a canned distribution like Skywave Linux where they have packaged and configured a nice selection of applications into a distro customized for communications.

    On updating windows..

    I've had no issues with multiple Win7 PC's upgrading to Win10. Win10 has quirks, yes, but no more so than any other version of Windows. My biggest gripe is the update handling. I completely understand why they are "encouraging" frequent updates, which is a good thing for 95% of the typical PC users out there. If you're concerned about data privacy issues, you can easily strangle it behind a good router with port blocking and firewall capabilities.

    FWIW - Anyone currently running a legal and legitimately licensed copy of Win7 - you can still upgrade for free to Windows 10. I was able to do it after the "free update" grace period expired. Worked fine.

    Follow the directions carefully. Link: https://www.howtogeek.com/272201/all-the-ways-you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free/
     
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  2. KB0MNM

    KB0MNM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Re: MSDOS / Clone of DOS you might want to look at FreeDOS. Just do not expect to use it ( in itself ) to support a web browser...
     
  3. KA9JLM

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    I still have a old IBM computer that has Basic on ROM.

    That machine and two external full height 10 meg hard drives cost about $5,000

    The kicker is that it still works, And the amber monitor has no screen burn in.

    That was when true IBM clones were illegal.
     
  4. AD5MB

    AD5MB Ham Member QRZ Page

    only one porn site, 6 pictures, and the mandatory virus never updated...
     
  5. N4AAB

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    As a retired computer tech I'll point out that MS and other companies engage in planned obsolesence. There is really nothing wrong with Windows 98SE that a patch to fix up its security wouldn't fix.

    MS' real problem is they sell patches, claiming they are new operating systems.
     
  6. KV6O

    KV6O Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is obsolescence. Technology moves on. There was nothing inherently wrong with B&W tube TV's, but your don't see them around anymore because there are better ways of doing it today. An OS written for 20 year old hardware technology can't compete with today's OS's. Windows SE has severe memory limitations by today's standards, can only address a single processor, etc. Good luck editing 4K video, or playing any modern game with Win98SE!
     
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  7. KA9JLM

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    I still use 98 SE for my system recovery boot disks.

    I can ghost any hard drive using it. Even booting from a floppy.

    It was a bit tricky to get everything (Drivers) to fit on a 1.44 disk.
     
  8. K4AGO

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    Dave, I still run 3.11 for workgroups on an ancient 8086 based machine. I use it for a DOS based packet software program. The club I am a member of still uses packet to send bulletins, etc. to club members. The early 90's era DOS machine is dedicated to just the one packet program, PK Term. I have tried to find a replacement for the program but, everything Packet seems to be DOS based.
     
  9. W7UUU

    W7UUU Principal Moderator Lifetime Member 133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    But the point of my post: are you kvetching about the lack of MS support for 3.11? Or do you just deal with it?

    I suspect you just deal with it. Cuz MS sure as crap is NOT going to support 3.11 as an obsolete OS. Or Win 7 at some point, as was the thrust of the thread. Those choosing to use an unsupported OS, of ANY kind, whether it be Linux, MS, or Apple - are simply on their own.

    That was my point :)

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
  10. KA8NCR

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    What? Windows98 is not a modern operating system. A patch isn't going to fix its inherent design flaws, many of which were compromises due to the hardware available at the time.

    Windows98's is based upon MS-DOS. It is *barely* a 32 bit operating system, lugging along on its back all the 16 bit compatibility required at the time. Its file system is FAT32, which is the Walmart of file systems -- not the best, not the wisest, not known for service but available everywhere.

    Worse though, Windows98 has Win16mutex for 16-bit multitasking. Unfortunately, you don't necessarily need to run a 16-bit application to cause that beast to go wonky meaning that when it does, you lose access to ALL api's until you reboot. It is THE reason Windows95, 98 and ME were such unstable pieces of crap.

    I don't disagree that companies like Microsoft push latest and greatest to keep the money pumps running. But the world has moved on to way better hardware and way better ideas.
     

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