Looking at a Chinese clone of a fantastic open source SDR Project

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  1. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

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  2. W1YW

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    No; they are breaking (US) LAW.

    PLEASE do not review products brought into the US illegally (no FCC cert), if you are a US Part 97 licensee.

    This product transmits out of the ham bands. That means, under that condition alone, it should not be brought into the US.

    Why do you think that ICOM, YAESU, and JVC have to wait so LONG for THEIR products to come to the US?

    Because they play by the rule of LAW.
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  3. K6LPM

    K6LPM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Any HW transmitter apperattus can transmit out of band. The firmware is opened sourced. So don't download the open sourced firmware that allows for it to become such an evil 11 meter radio or pirate shortwave station or outlaw marine radio ect......
    Jeeze Louis better send my icom 7300 back to Japan so that they can replace that microdot diode that was removed to allow operation on five megahertz too.
    Man I what about all that old surplus ww2 gear and all the he old Collins ham and commercial gear?
    Hams should continue to be allowed to run what you brung... Freakin 11 meters is who we can thank for such nonsense. They don't even want h gear. They make purpose built export 11 meter rigs these days with hundreds of channels all mode with 400watt carrier output. Look on YouTube of all the big 10kW mono band ampbuilders using broadcast transmitter tubes . I doubt FCC has type accepted these things and know doubt about it good buddy built Godzilla model is for ham radio usefulness?
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  4. W1YW

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    Illegal activity should never be part of the amateur radio service; consider yourself so reminded.

    Again, the manual determines the legality as 'manufacturers specifications'.

    Whether -- you-- unlock ANY transceiver is not the fault o the manufacturer or FCC cert. It wasn't sold to you with that wideband capability at the time of sale.

    In this case, the (US illegal) specification is evident at the time of sale.

    For you,your IC 7300 meets FCC cert on excluding out of (ham) band transmissions --unless YOU unlock it.

    Its bizarre, IMO, to insinuate someone is being picky for pointing out what we all should already know and abide by.

    Chip W1YW
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  5. K2SDS

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    Comprehensive video by Dave Casler regarding OOB capable radios. Don't know if this information has since been superseded but it is educational none the less.
  6. W1YW

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    Just read the FCC notice.

    Generalized verbiage which applies to wit:....

    ..."For example, some can be modified to transmit on public safety and other land mobile channels for which they are not authorized, while others are capable of prohibited wideband operations.2 Such radios are illegal, and many have the potential to negatively affect public safety, aviation, and other operations by Federal, state, and local agencies, as well as private users. Because these devices must be, but have not been, authorized by the FCC, the devices may not be imported into the United States, retailers may not advertise or sell them, and no one may use them. Rather, these devices may only be imported, advertised, sold, or used only if the FCC first has approved them under its equipment authorization process (or unless the devices operate exclusively on frequencies reserved for amateur licensees or they are intended for use exclusively by the federal government). Moreover, with only very limited exceptions, after being authorized, the devices may not be modified. Anyone importing, advertising or selling such noncompliant devices should stop 1 47 CFR § 2.803(b)(1). Importing, advertising and selling are three aspects of “marketing” under the Commission’s rules. Specifically, marketing “includes [the] sale or lease, or offering for sale or lease, including advertising for sale or lease, or importation, shipment, or distribution for the purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease... Violators may be subject to substantial monetary penalties..."

    The fact that they imported from PRC is incidental.

    The point of law is , well, the point.

    OK :)?

    Chip W1YW
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  7. K9CTB

    K9CTB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Um, Ron? Here's a quote from Chris: Let's do OUR homework before we pull a California on others, shall we?

    "It was brought to my attention by many OMs that the full kit is available on Ebay from few power sellers, based in HK/China. Just want to clarify that those sales have nothing to do with me or have been authorized by me in any way. It is in a breach of the mcHF project licence terms where all files and documentation is offered for non commercial use only, for advancing of the amateur radio hobby and experimentation."
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  8. K7LZR

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    Wow. What a mess. Sorry Chris. Thank you for your knowledge, hard work and generosity. All much appreciated by those who will stay true to the idea.
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  9. K2SDS

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    And if nothing has changed since this video was made, then they are still illegal. Question is how can they have passed the FCC approval process under Part 90 if they are clearly in violation of part 97?
  10. KA0HCP

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    You are confused.

    A radio cannot be certified under both Parts, but MUST be certified. The FCC notice is regarding uncertified radios being sold new.
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