I understand but the system is designed to take advantage of the internet. Not saying that is a bad thing, it is what it is. I do find it ironic that we are "when all else fails" yet the emergency communications is is pushing the D-Star system which ties into internet prone to failure and overload in disaster. I think a repeater to repeater system for passing data without internet connection would be better and more reliable system. Maybe D-Star does that also, haven't read that deep.