Maybe I shouldn't tell this story, but since I won't use his name it should be okay with the staff. Here comes a long-standing amateur radio operator, that almost everyone knows of, but really doesn't know personally. I do, but in a casual way—I don't hob knob with him socially. He decides he's going to go mobile in his new Hummer (H2 as I recall). Ah! There is a perfect place to mount the antenna (not!), on the brush guard of the left rear tail light. A special (emphasis on special) bracket is fashioned which clips to the brush guard. Digressing.... No thought whatsoever, about ground losses, how well DC and/or RF grounded the brush guard is, but by golly that special bracket sure is nice looking! I should add, that the antenna in question was an ATAS, so I guess it really doesn't matter whether there is a ground plane or not, as the coil losses are almost 90% to start with. Boy oh boy, did that installation look good! Had a bit of a problem with RFI, the SWR was a bit high as well, but let's see how it works. Pulling away from the curb, and suddenly crash-bang-thud! The antenna falls off! [At this point you're supposed to be asking yourself about that special bracket, and what it was bolted to?] Oh! Oh! Pulling over to the curb, the antenna is laying on the ground, all beat up. That special bracket still attached to the brush guard. So, what happened? Turns out that the brush guard is plastic! It was attached to the tail light lens with double-sided tape!! Plastic? Not made of metal? Not grounded? In any case you get the picture. If nothing else, it just proves that the best plans are not always the best of plans. Haste, does indeed, make waste!