SIXTY + Chuck, I am IMPRESSED by your code prowess ! I quit at 35 wpm . Fast enough morse ( for me ) . Sixty WPM is not my forte ...... Sixty ( not computer generated ) , is a struggle ! If I DID need 60 wpm , I ran RTTY . Good for you though . I went to a 'fest one year and the winner was ....... 100 wpm CW . I am NOT that good . Twenty-five to thirty - five cruising speed was OK . With QSB and QRN , I still miss many sentences ( NOTE: not characters ) . I guess that I am still a ' Light Weight ' . As stated , over 35 wpm , it is a struggle . I still have problems attempting to copy bad code at 5 wpm . New EXTRA's you know . Again , 60 wpm , I will go to RTTY baudot ! Good for you ! J. P.S. I hope you understand .