I have tried learning CW several times during the last years. I spent hours on slow night shifts listening to CW trying to learn. I tried all sorts of different tools, this time i am using the G4FON program and the Koch method. Some how, i cant manage to learn more than two or three letters. As soon as more letters are blended into the code im completely lost. I am also a slow writer, i cant really write 15 speed with a pen and paper, so i tried copying in my mind also, but it doesnt work. Since i really would like to be able to use CW, this leavs me really frustrated. Since i am completely tone death, and had a very hard time learning languages in school(basicly failed all language courses, while managing the others with average results), i was sort of expecting learning CW to be difficult. But not impossible, like it feels now. How long time is it reasonble to expect it would take a person to be able to copy the first 4 letters in Koch method, in 15 speed? I have nothing to compare with, but i have spent several hours, and have made basicly no progress what so ever.