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Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by W6EM, Jul 24, 2021.

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  1. W4NNF

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    What would the Zed be without occasional testimonials to the depredations of the <CHOKE! GASP! GOOD LORD!> EVIL ARRL? :rolleyes:
     
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  2. K1VSK

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    Hypocrisy 101 lesson - Same old characters defending the indefensible ARRL.
    Apparently, it’s not okay to criticize the League but it’s fine to criticize those who do.
     
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  3. KA8NCR

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    I haven't seen moderators pull the thread, so it seems to reason that it is just fine to criticize the ARRL. When someone does, they should expect to hear from people that disagree. If that disagreement makes people uncomfortable, they're in the wrong place.
     
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  4. W3WN

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    Presuming facts not in evidence. Gotcha.
     
  5. K1VSK

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    Quite correct. My only point being those who can’t seem to tolerate any ARRL criticism resorting to “bashing’ them for ‘bashing’ the League.
     
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  6. N3AWS

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    The title of this forum is Ham Radio Discussions—every discussion I have ever witnessed has had AT LEAST two sides…
     
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  7. W9YW

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    It's my observation that democracy is messy but necessary. The ARRL, in my personal opinion, is made of many people who try hard to handle a vast, wide, and deep diversity in interests as volunteers. The corporate/paid staff have to manage these diverse interests, coming from an equally vast, wide, deep, and highly opinionated group of very smart people. Rough and intense job. Most of the time, they keep things in order but it's at the local levels where things get done. Leadership isn't easy.

    The only way you make the ARRL better is by consistently and professionally lending your advocacy and considered criticism, IMHO.

    Volunteers are motivated by many things, each differently. I do a lot of volunteer work; I'm not a power-mad ego-centric. Instead, it's more like janitorial work. The devil is in the details and follow-through.

    It's pretty humbling. With so much these days fueled by anger and pique, it's no wonder that good potential volunteers are driven away.

    As a reflection of its members, the ARRL will never be perfect as its members aren't perfect either. The volunteers that make any good organization work need advocacy, not death by a thousand small cuts.

    The ARRL needs constructive criticism, but more, they need professional energy and advocacy. Any good organization will fail without these two important ingredients, IMHO.
     
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  8. WD0BCT

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    A year or two before retirement our company appointed a "Manager of Change" with a committee to back her up. It seemed that the reasoning was "change is good" and we all needed help realizing the "new good". Prior to the new regime one had to demonstrate improvement prior to making changes.

    Demonstrations? We don't need no stinking demonstration!
     
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  9. K1VSK

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    And without being responsive to its members, an equally important ingredient, it fails to represent them.
     
  10. NN4RH

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    I guess I don't see the problem. Nothing underhanded going on. Nothing insidious going on. Just a Board of Directors doing what Board of Directors do.

    This was not "out of the blue". It goes back to the minutes of the July 2020 (a year ago!) Board of Directors meeting (item 33). Note that this was before the DEC was appointed. There are also the EMDS Committee reports filed with the January and July 2021 Board meetings. All available online.

     
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