It is not hard to beat a TS2000. I lot of even older rigs beat it. The 2000 lacks a lot on HF. I was going to buy one about 6 years, a black special edition, until I got some hands on time with one and was very disappointed. I bought a 480 instead. I have both 500hz and 1.9khz optional filters in it and it holds its own and 590 offers little over it real world. I have had the chance to play with a FT 1200 several months ago and I was impressed with it. I did not get a chance to put it side by side with a 590 like I have with several other rigs but it warrants another serious look over a 590 and I am a Kenwood guy too.