Just Got Scammed by someone posing as K4RIQ

Discussion in 'Stolen Radios, Scams and Rip-Offs' started by KF7EUP, Oct 13, 2018.

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  1. KF7EUP

    KF7EUP Ham Member QRZ Page

    yes against my better judgement i used the friends and family option. but i used my VISA to fund that transaction so i have to head the war from my VISA Providers Point of view

    I agree that i should not have used friends and family i was trying to make sure that the person at the other end didn't incur the fees associated with the Goods and Services option. I know better next time not to ever use that unless i am fully certain of whom i am entering a transaction with.

    This would be a great example to those who use friends and family in the future .. don't.. its not worth it.. also i would make certain that if you are going to do business with someone via email you verify as much of the identity of the user as possible. shortly after i completed this transaction i saw the Get Verified option on qrz .. I think everyone that wants to sell or even buy from qrz should verify themselves so that we have one more level of assurance we are talking to who we think we are.

  2. WB0MPB

    WB0MPB XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    That is still not right. It is against Paypal policy to use F/F in any transaction. It is only for sending money. So even if you buy something from your mother and use F/F you are doing an illegal action and defrauding Paypal.

    Just wanted to pass that info on. It is all in the Paypal rules.

    John, WB0MPB
  3. KJ4VTH

    KJ4VTH Ham Member QRZ Page

    * sigh *

    So few read before sending money. So many post afterwards about being taken. :(
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  4. WB7OXP

    WB7OXP Ham Member Volunteer DX Helper QRZ Page

    rough crowd

    may the sun ALWAYS SHINE ON YOU as it obviously ALWAYS has

    others, not as blessed, occasionally see darkness and rain

    i am happy for the blessed as well as the normal
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  5. K9GAS

    K9GAS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Friends and Family is fine, but I only use it with friends I really know and trust, or family.
    Anyone asking to use it without solid background is a risky situation.
    PayPal did at one time back the F&F use, but they changed policy on this and only offer protection fee transactions.
    I only had to use them once for help and they came through. It took about four weeks to see my PayPal account with the money refunded.
    It use to be, that if you were verified by PayPal, used a dedicated checking account, you could pay without a fee and be protected by PayPal.
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  6. KF7EUP

    KF7EUP Ham Member QRZ Page

    Just an Update
    I was smart using my Credit Card to fund the transaction. My Bank found the transaction to be fraudulent and refunded me my lost funds. Thanks for everyone's help during this endeavor!
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  7. KJ4VTH

    KJ4VTH Ham Member QRZ Page

    Friends and Family is fine for giving away money. It is not fine for paying for goods or services. Check the updated PayPal policy.
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  8. WB0MPB

    WB0MPB XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I have posted in a couple threads what you are saying.
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    Some, I don't know for sure, but either just can't get it or just don't want to follow the TOS or just don't care or etc. It is just not Paypal trying to set rules to make your life miserable, it is for everyone's protection. Paypal does not have to provide the friends and family service but they are more patient then I am. I would have pulled the plug on it a long time ago. When a buyer does this as a favor for the seller then they become a willing partner in scamming Paypal out of the commission they have earned. If a buyer or seller of goods does not like the commission that Paypal is getting then they need to pay or receive money some other way.

    John, WB0MPB
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  9. AB3TQ

    AB3TQ Subscriber QRZ Page

    I bet your Credit Card Company just absorbed the financial loss. It can be cheaper than fighting to recover from the fraudster.

    Glad you learned a lesson. Only a few hundred thousand more hams to educate.
    KB3VWG, WB4IVF and AJ4GQ like this.
  10. K4AGO

    K4AGO Ham Member QRZ Page

    This is VERY true. If you use Friends and Family, you are only scamming yourself. It is defrauding PayPal.
    KB3VWG likes this.

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