Jack Anderson's 1970s-era Ham vs CB Editorial

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by K4KYV, Oct 10, 2018.

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  1. N1VAU

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    Might be vernacular expression.
    2 most common types of I'm familiar with.
    1. "Directed" for more serious purposes where net control is much like the chairman at a meeting using Robert's rules of order. Used during public service events and ARES NETs for example. No unnecessary radio traffic.

    2. "Informal" NET where there's order but each station gives a casual transmission where they may tell the group what they've been up to or ask a question to the group. Like a group of friends meetingfor coffee but each station gets the opportunity to talk once or twice in a round table rag chew
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  2. WZ7U

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    Sound like how I remember SSB CB being a couple + decades back. It was actually a lot of fun.
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  3. N1VAU

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    There sure we're a lot more girls to meet on CB back then than there were on amateur radio.

    That was important to me 3+ decades ago!
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  4. KP4SX

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    Truck stops, baby!
  5. N1VAU

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    Not those kind girls, LOL

    Besides there weren't "truck stops" in central NH anyway
  6. N2EY

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  7. WZ7U

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    Which sucks if you're low on hours and Boston is too far away. Glad that only happened to me once, and didn't get caught. Otherwise, it's really nice up there.
  8. KA2CZU

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    in our area, you found them calling at every truck stop...

    wait, what? :D
  9. N2UHC

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    Same here except one day when I heard a couple of them on the CW portion of 10 meters. Other than when they spill over to 28 MHZ, I've never cared much what happens on 27 MHZ. And until we clean up frequencies such as 7200 and 3840 (IIRC), we have no claim to the moral high ground of good radio operating.
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  10. N2EY

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    There was a time when 99.9999% of Americans had lots of respect for FCC rules. The average person, licensed or not, would not DREAM of operating an illegal transmitter. Ham radio was exceptionally clean and G-rated. The worst "bad apples" were folks who did things such as "no kids, no lids, no space cadets" or ran a bit over the legal 1000 watts power.

    In those days the FCC was actively and rapidly enforcing the rules. The vast majority of violations committed by hams were unintentional, technical things (chirps, clicks, overmodulation, harmonics, slightly out of band) rather than intentional (language, intentional interference, failure to ID, extreme superpower).

    Yes, there were a few troublemakers - but they were only a few. They stuck out like a sore thumb and FCC dealt with them. Licenses were suspended and revoked, fines levied and collected. And in short order; it didn't take 10 or 20 years.

    We also had rapid growth in the number of US hams.

    Then came 11 meter cb in the late 1950s. At first, the service was well-behaved and used mostly for its intended purposes: short-range land-mobile radio for those who couldn't afford VHF/UHF FM land-mobile.

    But by the late 1960s the FCC had begun to lose control. Huge numbers of Americans bought CB sets and used them for other purposes. Soon observance of the rules became the exception in that service. Power far beyond the legal limit, intentional interference, failure to ID or even get a license, and many other violations of the rules became common. The FCC tried to enforce the rules but it was a lost cause. They eventually gave up even issuing licenses.

    Had all this stayed on 11 meters it would be bad enough - but it didn't. The culture spawned "freebanders", who would go outside the authorized channels, into 10 meters and elsewhere. Amateur equipment was modified for such use, to the point that in 1978 we hams were shackled with rules about our linear amplifiers.

    Hams were often blamed for RFI caused by cb and freeband operation - our names and addresses were known to FCC, so guess who got the first call? Public service performed by hams was sometimes credited to cb groups. Hams seeking to put up antennas began to encounter opposition from those who didn't know the difference between us and cb folks.

    Worst of all, the culture of "ignore the rules" started to creep into ham radio.

    On top of all this is the fact that the FCC took away a ham band from law-abiding amateurs to create the new service which got so out of control. In the 1970s, they wanted to take away ANOTHER ham band (220) to create "Class E" cb, supposedly to clean up Class D! IOW, take from the well-behaved and give to the out-of-control? Reward the violators and penalize the law-abiding!

    Imagine you're a young ham in the 1970s who worked his/her way up from Novice to Extra, self-taught, becoming proficient in both operating and technical stuff to the point of having operating awards and an all-homebrew station, all done with strict adherence to the rules.

    And the first question folks ask you upon hearing you're a ham is "what's your handle?"

    Think you'd see 11 meters as harmless?


    How are "we" supposed to "clean up" frequencies such as 7200 and 3840, if FCC won't do their job? What are "we" supposed to do?

    Vigilante justice might not turn out the way we might like. Trespassing and vandalism can get one in a LOT of trouble - and remember, these days, a lot of folks have security cameras and firearms.
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