It's one thing to trash talk Ham radio here, but to do it publicly......

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by K5TCJ, Oct 23, 2017.

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  1. K5TCJ

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  2. WB2WIK

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  3. WR2E

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    No comment... it would be against the rules.
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  4. KK5JY

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    Well, considering the source, what did you expect? Tact?

    That said, none of what he said was false. He could have found all kinds of ways of saying those things that wouldn't come across like a sledgehammer to the forehead, but you can't fault the article for a lack of truthfulness.

    In fact, he could have said far worse things, and still been technically truthful.
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  5. KB9BVN

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    No one is being held here against their will. If you don't enjoy it any more....why stick around? Life is short enough as it is.
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  6. W4NNF

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    Well, the thing is, stuff like this is the only thing that makes some people feel good about themselves. He hates contests, wishes the code would come back, and thinks prospective hams should sketch Hartley oscillators for the Radio Inspector. Big surprise.

    The truth of the matter is that the average ham has never been an engineer. In the days when commercial equipment and state of the art technology was too expensive for hams, they built. Most didn't design. Not hardly. They got a project out of the Handbook or QST that someone had designed and laid out for them and soldered it together. Or they built a kit. You can learn some from assembling and testing a kit, but only some.

    Ham radio is still fun for most hams. Others? They are only in it to have a pity party or to make themselves feel superior. It' s sad that's the only fun they get out of our avocation, but that's the way it goes. ;)
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  7. KK5JY

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    This is a good point. Probably one that the article's author has missed somehow.

    That said, I do understand how our hobby fills up with "grumpy old men," and "bitter old men." If you are stuck at home with limited mobility and/or limited resources of whatever kind, there are few activities that offer the same level of interesting challenge as radio. So even the people who come to the hobby as "bitter old men" may still be getting quite a bit from the hobby, it's just that the "bitter" part will eventually spill out in a hobby where the main activity is communication.

    In that respect, I don't blame the JT65 and FT8 guys for being so religiously devoted to a mode where you don't have enough bytes of data to have a conversation.

    I'm sure many grouchy hams would rather be flying, sailing, fishing, traveling, or whatever, but they just don't have those options for whatever reason. So they pick up a technical hobby, and right now, the best options for technical hobbies that you can do from your living room are ham radio and the "maker" movement, which itself is experiencing some early burn-out for lack of new and interesting projects.
  8. W4NNF

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    I understand that retirement--and many of us Baby Boom hams are well into retirement now--can be tough. It is a huge adjustment, and does make some people bitter, or at least makes them pine for the good old days, which as we all know were much better than now. :)

    What I don't like are the characters who just can't stand the idea that some ham somewhere, young or old, OT or novice, is still having tons of fun in radio. The fun they used to have, but don't anymore. Instead of finding something else to do with their time that they might enjoy, they prefer to spend their days trying to make sure no one else enjoys radio or the company of their fellow hams either. That I cannot abide.
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  9. KK5JY

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    ...and doing so without Morse code (*gasp*), and without having to describe a valve-based amplifier schematic to the FCC (*double gasp*)...
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  10. W2AI

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    It really wasn't any better in the early 60s except Solar Cycle 19 was the best on record for HF communications. Yes, there were divisions amoungst Hams back then,too. The old Class A ops looked down on the Class B and Class C (General and Conditional). Commercial HF and VHF transceivers were introduced to the amateur community, and many new amateurs with financial means brought new radios out of the box. These amateurs were deemed "appliance operators". And let's not forget the "Mail order" Technicians of the time who were looked down by other amateurs as "glorified CBers" who were supposed to be experimenting and not communicating. It was sidebanders vs. AMers, old vs. new, General vs. Technician. Yes, back then there were study guides for the Novice, Technician/General and Extra Class. And some OT hams lamented by "memorizing" the study guide one could pass the test without actual knowledge of the material in question. That the way it was.......
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