Interferance that goes beyond blocking the ham stuff

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by KC7YRA, May 22, 2020.

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  1. KK5JY

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    If you zoom in to where you can see individual pulses, you can measure the pulse period by highlighting the space between adjacent pulses. You can convert this into a frequency. If it's 60Hz or 120Hz, it suggests that you are looking for something that uses or transmits 60Hz power.
     
  2. WC5P

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    Kind of hard to get a feel for the on-off timing due to all the button pushing, but the timing sort of reminds me of an electric fence charger. One of the locals had something similar a few years back. It was some certain kind of weed getting across an electric fence wire. Solved with a weed whacker. As I recall it affected 80 and 160, but I could be wrong about the bands.
     
  3. N0TZU

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    Fencers usually have a snap sound, no 120/60 Hz because the pulse is very short.

    Perhaps some kind of AC thermostat with bad contacts cycling on and off? Or some other automatically controlled device with bad relay contacts?
     
  4. K4KYV

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    An electric fish tank thermostat can sound like that. My kids had one, and I fixed it with a 110v a.c. relay, wired so that the thermostat contacts activated the relay which turned on the heater element, instead of turning on the heater directly. That reduced the noise to a faint tick instead of a buzz, and the tick was barely audible in the receiver.
     
  5. WA1UIL

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    Battery maintainer would be my best guess
     
  6. KA9JLM

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    Electric fence with a weed touching it.
     
  7. K8BZ

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    You have taken some pretty reasonable first steps to ID the problem. And I agree with some other posts that it sounds like 60 or 120 Hz noise. It may help if you check to see if the noise is ongoing 24 hours, or if it stops at night or some other regular time f day.

    If you have a portable vhf radio that has AM or SSB mode you can track down the problem even closer than a 2 block area by using even a simple 3 element 'fox hunt' type HF antenna.

    This video is about tracking down noise originating from power line arcing, but it can apply to other RFI sources as well. Good luck.
     
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  8. KO4LZ

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    If you do an audio frequency analysis of the noise in the video, you can see two clear spikes at 60 and 120 Hz, so it would appear to be related to AC power. I'm pretty sure it's not a "normal" AC power line noise issue, since these tend to produce the constant "growl" that you can hear in K8BZ's (very nice) video.

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  9. N0TZU

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    Use AM BCB or HF portable (loop antenna or walk/drive around method) to find the general area. Then within around a half or quarter mile or so switch to a low air band antenna to get closer, then a high air band antenna to find the individual pole.

    I made a three element “cheap” Yagis for 135 MHz and 335 MHz from stiff copper wire or brass welding rod and PVC pipe (calculators online) with simple hairpin match. A mix 43 ferrite bead at the antenna will help eliminate pickup from the feed line.

    I use them with my HT which can receive the air bands in AM mode.
     
  10. K1LKP

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    YOU COULD HAVE SOME RASCALS GROWING "NICE" PLANTS ...........

    THE GRO - LITES ARE TERRIBLE FOR RADIATING A LOT OF GARBAGE........
     

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