improving SDR reception with BANDPASS filter

Discussion in 'Software Defined Radio (SDR)' started by KN4TOU, Nov 11, 2020.

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  1. KN4TOU

    KN4TOU Ham Member QRZ Page

    This guy is using a RTL SDR in direct sampling but the reception is very poor, after he connects a BPF Amazing difference



     
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  2. WA7F

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    I think Bandpass filters helps any radio. A BCB filter is also a huge help for SDRs.
     
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  3. W6UV

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    Depends on where you live. I live far from any high-powered BCB or SW transmitters and don't have these issues with any of my SDRs, even ones without any kind of RF front-end filtering.
     
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  4. KK4NSF

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    I use a bandpass filter, and an LNA on a directional 5' square non resonant loop antenna system.... and my receive results are outstanding. Below is a pic of my receiver system while still under construction.

    The bandpass filter board has 16 channels from 1.5 to 30 mhz, and the LNA is ~12db. Both are old surplus parts....and I must say that those Gov't guys certainly do have some nice toys! The power supply is heavily filtered and shielded... that's why it's so big. The SDRplay is an RSP-DX, controlled by a Dell R710 which is also very RF quiet.

    So.... my opinion of Bandpass filters? For really good reception, they are a necessity. Of course some radios have good ones built into the front end. Others are not so good.... and adding one for each band you operate on will really help you.
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    By the way... a cheap pre-amp is not only useless, but actually decreases your signal / noise ratio. BUT a real LNA is a whole different animal, and will really help you pull in weak signals when combined with a good bandpass filtering system.

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  5. N1IPU

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    Having difficulty with lack of info on which LNAs to use or where to find them. Lot's of conflicting info out there.
     
  6. KK4NSF

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    Yes there is. I use old mil-surplu units, but these are hard to come by nowadays. I've heard a lot of good things about DX engineering's RPA-2 Receive Preamplifier, though. If I were looking for a new one, that's what I'd buy.

    A few notes:
    1- A LNA (or preamp) will boost all incoming signals, so a good bandpass filter is a necessity. Preferably, it should be a narrow one for just the band of interest.
    2- You'll need to use the OFF button quite often. While helpful on weak signals, it can also cause overloading from nearby strong signals.
    3- they seem to work best with directional antennas- loops, arrays, yagis and so forth. Omni directional antennas pick up noise from all directions which may be problematic
    4- to use an LNA / Preamp, you MUST have a T/R switch which grounds the RX while transmitting, and preferably a seperate RX antenna. If you don't, you will kill the LNA very quickly.
     
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