Hey guys! I'm in the market for my first HF radio and I'm having the hardest time deciding which one to buy. I'm stuck between these two radios (IC-7200 and TS-480sat) and the more I read threads and reviews it makes my head want to explode. Since the last comparison thread was a year ago, I'd like to see some new opinions. Both radio have gotten amazing reviews on eham, pages and pages worth of 5 stars. I plan on using the radio for a base in the house but also when camping... no mobile in car operation. So I'd like it to be able to handle the elements a bit better. It seems both radios are decently rugged for this. So I made a pro/con list for the radios, but I am looking for real world opinions from people whom have used both, not just one. I went to AES yesterday and played with both of them. There was a special events station running on 14.255 making constant contacts so I was able to use it as a basis for comparison. Surprisingly, the 7200 won hands down and was a shocker to me. The audio came in so clean after just minor adjustments. The kenwood was receiving only about half of what the 7200 was. I had a buddy with me that knows the ts-480 well and he tried multiple things to get it to receive better but nothing worked. The antenna was the same for both radios. I even tried a yaesu 857D but that experience was horrible, sorry to say but I have had nothing but headaches with Yaesu in the past so anything Yaesu is not an option. IC-7200 +Filters and settings adjusted easily +USB connection +IF DSP +Smooth VFO knob and easy to use controls -Small Display -No Internal AT, but have been told an external works better than the internal ones TS-480sat +Big Display +Dual Antenna Inputs +Antenna Tuner +Easy Menus -Didn't like the small VFO knob and the control layout If I'm missing something please let me know, I'm open to opinions and suggestions. I can deal with little things if it means I'm going to get more bang for my buck and longer use out of this radio.