I Am Not Making This Up

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  1. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    There is? The freedom to own and control the use of personal property was a primary consideration when Franklin's generation discussed the idea of "liberty."
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  2. N2EY

    N2EY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Some neighborhoods, maybe. Not "almost every", in my experience.

    Where is the local government, and the enforcement of nuisance ordinances? In every place I've lived, having unregistered vehicles visible on a residential property would get them towed away. Same for blocking the sidewalk.

    Because of safety, noise, smells and other concerns.

    Point is, setting those limits is the job of local governments, with zoning and nuisance ordinances.
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  3. KK6NOH

    KK6NOH Ham Member QRZ Page

    So you gave up the freedom of being able to do what you want with your own property... for the security of maybe not losing a little value on your land if someone decides to cut down a tree.

    You made a bad trade.
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  4. W6UV

    W6UV Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Agreed, but private entities, such as developers, can do it also in the form of contract conditions (CC&Rs). People have the option to not live in areas with CC&Rs if they so choose.
  5. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    But at least it "helped the economy." ;)
  6. WU8Y

    WU8Y Ham Member QRZ Page

    How DARE those people complain about and want to change the new HOA regulation! They are people of low morals and bad character. They knew what they were getting into when they bought in a HOA.

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  7. WF4W

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    nope, not at all. MY specific desire was a rural feel in a suburban area with urban proximity. I got that.

    I've not yet encountered a loss of freedom - I installed the pool I want (it's awesome), I've installed the beautiful patio i want, I've installed a bball hoop for my son, I've got an HF vertical that has gotten me 180 DXCC entities and the awards listed in my signature, and a simple 2m vertical. . . and my home has appreciated in value. So no, i've got exactly what I want.
  8. N2EY

    N2EY Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is not a stretch of imagination to think of an HOA where everyone has to carry HOA ID 24/7 to prove they have the right to be there. "Your papers, please?"

    Or why some of us will spend serious money to buy an older home, then more serious money to fix it up and maintain it. Story of my life....

    The ironic thing is that so many HOAs have rules requiring that residents keep their garage doors CLOSED unless they are actually being used. Imagine: open the garage door to get the mower out, close the garage door, mow the lawn, open the garage door, put the mower away, close the garage door. If the mower needs gas while mowing....open the door, get the gas can, close the garage door......
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  9. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Dein ausweiss, bitte? Exactly. And that's nowhere near the level of awful behavior that can be justified under the kind of thinking being allegedly practiced in the OP's article link.

    Yeah, I was wondering about that as I read the article. It would be hilarious if one of the residents actually dusted off the CC&R they got at closing, only to find that there is such a rule that predates the one in the article. "So, Mr./Ms. HOA Gestapo, which is it??" ;)

    Next thing you know, the HOA will have to outlaw remodeling, because people stuck in those houses will start converting their garages into fully-enclosed "game rooms." It's not difficult to make an outer wall that looks like a garage door, to comply with "aesthetic" requirements.
  10. N2EY

    N2EY Ham Member QRZ Page

    If such places exist. As the prevalence of HOAs and CC&Rs increases, places without them become a smaller and smaller percentage of properties.

    More important, such things should not be done by "private entities". They are the province of government, not some "developer" who will take his/her profit and be long gone.

    There has been a cultural propaganda campaign happening in the USA for decades now, brainwashing Americans into thinking that "without an HOA/CC&Rs, neighborhoods turn into slums and property values crumble". It's NOT TRUE - but more and more brainwashed people believe it. They cannot imagine that people will take care of their properties.

    Remember: CC&Rs were invented as a way to legally keep "those people" out of "nice neighborhoods".
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