Hustler 5btv Radials

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  1. KR2C

    KR2C Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I forgot to mention.....

    The radial length was about the total length of the antenna. 25'.
  2. K6BFL

    K6BFL Ham Member QRZ Page

  3. K6BFL

    K6BFL Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yeah. I got this from another ham and he had it set up and working but he pasted qay so i could not aks him how he set it up. 73 Thanks
  4. K6BFL

    K6BFL Ham Member QRZ Page

    ok I will also have to try that. Thanks
  5. K6BFL

    K6BFL Ham Member QRZ Page

    tthat is what I thought. I was just trying to piece what he said together.
  6. KA4DPO

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    The Hustler manual for the BTV antennas says,

    Concrete or No Concrete – That is THE Question

    The original Hustler BTV installation manuals call for the ground mounting pipe to be driven into

    the earth with the specific wording “Do not use concrete. Do not dig a hole and bury the mast. It

    must be driven in.” The reason for this recommendation is so that installations with few or no

    radials will be able to make use of the direct contact between the mounting pipe and the earth to

    collect and distribute antenna currents.

    Unfortunately, the soil and a steel pipe usually does not provide efficient RF conduction. Therefore,

    the use of many ground radial wires are recommended for all quarter-wave ground mounted HF

    antenna, to improve efficiency and performance dramatically.

    Also, a driven or pounded pipe may be used on any ground-mounted vertical antenna installation,

    regardless of the number of radials used.

    DX Engineering recommends using a concrete base, as shown on page 9, when a high performance

    installation with many radials is planned.
    The reasons that a concrete base is recommended:

    1. It is easier to make sure that the mounting pipe is vertical when it is braced for installation

    with concrete. Pounded pipes can develop a lean or hit a rock while being driven into the

    ground, which could result in a leaning antenna.

    2. A steel pipe or tube in concrete will last much longer than in soil, especially in certain types

    of soil that will corrode steel more quickly.

    3. Concrete is not an insulator for a steel pipe, as the hardened but moist concrete is a good

    conductor from the steel to the soil for grounding purposes.

    4. A ground surface wire radial system offers far more efficient means to collect and distribute

    surface RF currents than a single pipe in the soil, so a pipe in concrete is okay when using

    many radials.
  7. WF4W

    WF4W Ham Member QRZ Page

    fortunately, he's only using this for a temporary field day antenna so doesnt need to ponder more permanent mounting solutions. . .

    My install has neither a pipe nor concrete - 4x4 wood post in the ground with many radials. Performs great! Perhaps the OP will see good performance and decide to mount it permanently at his home QTH
  8. K6BFL

    K6BFL Ham Member QRZ Page

    thanks. how many radials do you have 6 or 8
  9. WF4W

    WF4W Ham Member QRZ Page

    My permanent install has about 60 radials
  10. KR2C

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    I use 10 radials for my Field Day installation.

    For my home use, I have 60 radials.

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