HR2.0 - Spectrum Defense: FCC Proposal to Remove Privileges on 3/5GHz

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KC5HWB, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Brett WY7BG,

    Please learn not to insult and slander others.

    You may very well disagree with many of us on opinions, execution of effort, and so on. That's OK!

    But I am very disappointed at your ad hominem attacks and characterizations, which are poor and diverted responses to same.

    Any reasonable person would see my effort to help is in good faith, informed, and constructive.

    Any reasonable person can see that you have divulged nothing here that helps in the issue at hand.

    If you wish to participate constructively I am sure you would be welcomed.

    Merry Christmas this fine day,

    Chip W1YW
  2. WY7BG

    WY7BG Ham Member QRZ Page

    Today, I'm working on a Web site specifically aimed at preventing misallocation of spectrum by the FCC and dispelling the myth of a "race to 5G" (which is being used as an excuse to deliver permanent licenses for so much usable spectrum to a triumverate of mobile carriers that no wireless service or innovation could ever arise to compete with them). It will contain accurate information - not misinformation being promulgated by parties with hidden (or not so hidden) vested interests - as well as instructions on how to file comments with the FCC and how to contact key legislators regarding this issue.

    In the meantime, folks: watch Jason's very informative video, ignore the trolls (who, ironically, claim that pointing out their trolling is an "ad hominem attack," even as they are the ones who are on the attack and out to derail productive discourse), file comments with the FCC, and contact your legislators. Hams are not the only potential victims of spectrum mismanagement. Competitive broadband providers (a pursuit in which I'm also involved; I founded the first WISP as a nonprofit 28 years ago), other spectrum users and innovators, and the general public stand to lose if a tri-opoly of mobile carriers is given a lock on virtually all usable spectrum.

    A merry Christmas, a happy Hanukkah, a joyous Winter Solstice, and a healthy, happy, and prosperous new year to all!
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2019
  3. K6CLS

    K6CLS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Chip, did you file anything on the NPRM?
  4. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    READ my earlier posts please.

    No, I will not. Too much harrassment over 15 years . I will not personally support those people, albeit a few, that abused me. Obviously I will not oppose them either.

    I am a radio amateur who understands the mission of Part 97.

    Do you?

    I will advise but not file.

    Appropos today, I am "PRESENT".

    If you are uncomfortable with that then think again.

    Chip W1YW
  5. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I am sure there are many who will be interested in your filing. Wishing you the best with it.

    I just used my first 5G phone the other day. Its clear why there is a 'race to 5G'--everyone will WANT and need it!Absolutely amazing! Its like from going from a landline 28 kbaud modem to fast wifi.....opens whole new worlds of information, entertainment, education, and fun! Virtual reality and extraordinary marriage:)

    Incidentally, there are 4 carriers, not three("triumvirate"; "tri-opoly"). Your statement is FALSE. The carriers are:


    Also, please be explicit about the facts regarding these "hidden (agendas and) vested interests" . No false connections-- that can be construed as libel. What do you know to be true? No one objects to FACTS.

    Just lay out the FACTS. Get. Facts. Right.

    Chip W1YW
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2019
  6. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    WIRED Magazine--which is usually a liberal 'anti-greed' platform, has an excellent video on 5G that may interest some here.

    I don't want fellow hams to underestimate the importance that HAMS have had in the telecom revolution, including 5G. For example, Dana Atchley (SK) W1CF was a founder of MACOM--which spun off QUALCOMM, a big player in 5G. For example, Ted Rappaport, N9NB was a pioneer in 5G . There are hundreds of other hams who have made this happen for the people of the US and the world.

    That is what hams DO. Enabling us on Part 97 is what MAKES IT POSSIBLE to produce these other technologies.

    Clearly-- we-- need spectrum to do what we do--but how much? That's the issue related to the NPRM. If we think ahead, we can save some of the 9cm band as a carve-out.

    If we are silly and ascribe the whole process as GREED of the carriers in the free market reality of America, then we will play fully into the hands of total 9cm band loss.

    THINK of how others position, and how the world sees US Part 97 licensees.

    When we get greedy (demanding 'our spectrum' when we hardly use it as a service) or 'activist', we ruin our credibility and reputation, encouraging others to look at us a mere 'hobbyists'; users, not innovators. That is fatal to Part 97 as we know it, with implications over the next 5 years that go well beyond the 9cm band.

    MO. Yours may differ.

    Great care needs to be exercised in filings by hams on the NPRM, addressing E-P-J and the value that Part 97 (presumably) brings to continued use of some of the 9cm band. Speaking with one voice, posing value, proffering solution(s) is what works. The responses of the NPRM should not be a case study for law students (in the future) on 'how not to respond to a NPRM'.

    YOUR voice is ONLY important if it has something of value to others, in what and how it is said.

    Here's the video: [Autopilot - Polar Card]

    Chip W1YW
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2019
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  7. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

  8. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thanks John--

    Its a shame that some of us, as hams, can't seem to look at 5G as a TRIUMPH of hams as our Part 97 mission (in part)-- rather than a greedy adversarial thief of 'our' spectrum.

    What is the benefit of alienating the very people who may be trying to help?

    Chip W1YW
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2019

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