HR2.0 Episode 98 - AREDN Forum at Dayton Hamvention 2017

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  1. KC5HWB

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    From the 2017 Dayton Hamvention, Andre, K6AH, from the AREDN Group, presents a forum about MESH networking using the AREDN firmware on various devices. MESH networking with AREDN is going to be one of my most talked about topics in upcoming episodes. This is really cool stuff. Give this video a look-see.

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  2. N2NOV

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    Less videos, more written data. Most of this is fine if you have elevation, but how about average homeowners with trees higher than our houses?
  3. KC5HWB

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    That is one of my issues. The answer is to have more nodes in different places, or as an alternative, if you can't reach other nodes, you can always tunnel through the internet between nodes. That kinda defeats the purposes of having a "alternative network" to the internet, but it will work.
  4. KK4HPY

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    My node and my neighbors node are both 10 feet off the ground , we do not have direct line of sight ( small building in the way ) and at 200 yards we get over 50 meg bandwidth. In the video he talks about how longer distance links are handled.
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  5. KK4HPY

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    There is all the written data you want at including a very good discussion forum.
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  6. N2NOV

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    200 yards? Try to find another ham that close who wants to do "techie" things. I am talking about references to a couple of miles in foliage dense areas. The nearest ham to me with any interest is over 2 miles away on the other side of an elevated highway and rises 50-100 feet between us. That is reality, not flat prarie land or houses on top of hills or buildings willing to give you space instead of charging money as if you were a cellphone provider. We hams are supposed to be thinking "when there is no internet" instead of relying on it for links like EchoLINK and WinLINK. ☺
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  7. N6KZB

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    1. Winlink needs no internet in your area to function, by design you can connect out of the area to send and receive internet based traffic.
    2. Winlink also can operate sans any internet for message delivery if desired, from gateway to gateway:
    3. It is primarily an HF based network, but has many input methodologies; Packet, Winmor, even telnet via a Mesh or normal LAN system if configured correctly.

    But I do concur that Echolink, and the use of the Internet to connect any communications systems may not operate if you have no internet at your location.

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  8. KC5HWB

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    If you have very dense foliage, try a 900MHz node. You can hardline it to a 2.4GHz node, and they will gateway together. The 900MHz band is better for cutting through foliage and objects than the higher bands.

    I did a video a few episodes back where we connected 2 SharkRF Openspot devices to one another over the MESH. Anything that is connected over the internet can also be connected over the MESH. So put some Winlink or Echolink or other type of servers on the MESH, and if the internet fails, you still have these services (And yes, you don't need internet to use Winlink, but you can hook it up this way.)
  9. N6KZB

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    MESH or normal LAN, yes anything that has an IP can be used. Our area network is rather large and covers both sides of the Border in San Diego Ca. Many products on it, and all can function sans internet.
    File server Voip phones Video chat sessions Winlink products DVRS with cameras Aprs I-gates that if no internet function as digis

    Backbone is 5 Ghz at average LAN speed of 144 Mbs, users AP's at 2.4. Some links 18 miles. While it is not MESH it functions well. And yes 900 Mhz is a good foliage penetrater. Good work sir.
  10. K6AH

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    To be clear, the network my fried Mike is referring to is not the AREDN backbone I have built, maintain, and refer to several times in this presentation. His is based on a traditional AirOS network in the Part 15 spectrum (not ham radio) using point-to-point links.
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