HR2.0 - Elecraft K4 Updates from Orlando Hamcation 2020

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KC5HWB, Feb 9, 2020.

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  1. KC5HWB

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    As an update to my original video recorded at the Dayton Hamention of 2019, we talk to Eric again about updated to the production of the K4 and shipping dates.

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  2. BG2CTY

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    这个 多少钱 我想买一台 777
  3. N6KZB

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    The translation is: wants to know what is the cost to buy.
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  4. BH3WNL

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    He wants to know how much the Elecraft K4 is :)
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  5. N0TZU

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    The K4 base model is US $4000.
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  6. K0UO

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    He told me that he had about three to four months of engineering updates to do and then he went through what a number of those updates were. Those would have to be done before any shipment.
    They're still working out quite a few things. Because the way the Icom 7610 panadapter looks they had to make updates for similar appearances.
    The planned K40 is going to be a whole lot like the flex maestro, I actually think it's going to be a better design than the Maestro of which I never did really like.
    However using your Apple or Android device is a long ways off they're only going to make the application available to designers so I'll probably not live long enough to see that LoL, something that would really make that unit a winner if they would do that But it's way off in the future, we've already been waiting a year for the original unit
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  7. K8JHR

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    Phooey. I will believe it only when I can buy one and it works right. It is irresponsible for any manufacturer to announce any rig before it is truly available.

    You cannot win any horse race without actually having a horse.

    Announced May, 2019, Elecraft first promised delivery early December 2019. Now, it says first units might ship May, 2020. I understand is still under design and development. If it works like the K3, it may take many weekly firmware updates before it works to specification. Some owners claimed all those weekly updates constituted good service after the sale - but failing to work as specified means it is broken and, that constitutes breach of warranty. I am not interested in beta testing its product on my time and money.

    I am eating well lately, 'cause I bet several guys a steak dinner it would not be available and work to spec as promised. Now, I wish I had bet bottles of bourbon, instead!

    That is just MY take - your mileage may vary. Good luck and Good DX to EVERYONE. K8JHR
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  8. W5CJA

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    I tend to agree, announcing a product before the DESIGN is finalized is ridiculous...especially if you start accepting preorders (I have no idea if Elecraft is taking preorders or not). Updating firmware after release is OK IMHO because some issues arent really identified until a larger sample size gets their hands on things.

    But, if you are still in DESIGN and ENGINEERING, you're doing a disservice to potential customers by announcing it.
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  9. N8LEK

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    Perhaps the Icom IC7610 (and maybe the IC7300) are taking a bite out of their sales. The Elecraft P3 panadapter costs ~$800.00, and that’s after paying $3000+ for a K3S. Maybe the K3S is a superior radio… I cannot say, I do not own one. But I do have a 7300 and the spectrum scope / waterfall is a joy to use.

    Maybe Elecraft announced the K4 early so that those in the market for a new radio will wait to buy a K4 instead of buying a new Icom, Kenwood, or Yaesu.
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  10. N0TZU

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    So if you don't like the business model, buy your radio somewhere else. Different strokes for different folks.

    There are valid reasons for the business model. Preorders can fund much of the pre-production and early production at small company. This reduces risk and results in lower costs because the need for financing is reduced or eliminated. It also generates free publicity. It's not uncommon today.

    Crowdfunding or crowdsourcing is the same thing but carried out using a third party website. In fact my son's tiny company just completed a round of crowdfunding and is delivering their first product to those who participated (including me :)). And they have more orders on top of that.
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