I guess time marches on ? The Kenwood TS 850 had that honor, at one time. Of course, the 850 does not have all the bells and whistles of the FTDX 5000. I started out with the old Kenwood 520, then went to a Yaesu 301. That kind of 'cured' me from Yaesu. I have had no problems with the TS 850, in all these years.