Help with moving to Windows 10 Home from Pro

Discussion in 'Computers, Hardware, and Operating Systems' started by N0JZQ, Jul 19, 2021.

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  1. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Volume license (usually) applies to multiple machines under THAT license, BUT>>> if a person is no longer employed (or otherwise associated with) the owner of the volume license, they can no longer (legally) use the software under the volume license, or transfer it to another individual. (This often leads to black (or at least gray) marketing of volume license keys "sold" to individuals in no way associated with the original Volume license holder.)
  2. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Isn't that partly the fault of the previous owner, then? I'd think THAT sort of "stuff" woud be removed before a computer changes hand.
  3. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I would think so.

    But some users have no clue.

    Microsoft holds their hand...
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  4. NG1H

    NG1H XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Usually. Most volume license holders contract out their computer disposal. The contractor is paid to take the machines and wipe or destroy the drive(s). They then turn around and resell the machine. They get paid coming and going! The seller usually either sells the machine with no drive or installs a OEM licenses OS.

    But you have cracks in the system. A company going bankrupt can sell off equipment without proper disposal techniques, a division manager can decide that the info is not critical and so not pay for wiping to save a few bucks, employee theft, or just plain human screwups can release these items into the wild.
  5. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    In your first instance, you are simply describing normal business practices; SOME companies (at least in the past) simply threw computers (and peripherals) in a dumpster, with NO thought of what was on hard drives. There's nothing "illegal" about selling a machine without a hard drive, OR installing an OEM operating system of any kind. the original company is paying to have the machines properly and completely "cleaned," either by proper wiping, or destruction of hard drives. That is something they agree to pay for. If a "disposal"company then decides to re-sell the computers, that is also their right, as they are the (new) owner of the physical MACHINE (ONLY,) but have no legal right to any of the licensed software, including operating system software.
    In the second scenario, you are describing what is basically "black and white" illegal, or at least, unethical. (Employee theft certainly is in the "b&w" illegal category.)
  6. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    A 1/4 Inch drill bit is handy for data disposal.

    Should work fine for the new SSD stuff also.
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  7. N5AF

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    I had a 5-gallon bucket of old hard drives. Sat down one day with the Torx bit set and opened up each one, removed the magnets, platters and stripped the aluminum cases. The drive bodies were solid blocks of aluminum. Added them to my monthly donation at the metal recycler and picked a few bucks.

    The magnets out of those old conventional drives are seriously powerful! All kinds of great uses.

    After that you can stack the old platters and drill them. ;)
  8. WA9SVD

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    Just 1/2 of one of those 2-part hard drive magnets placed on a platter will do the trick. No drilling required:cool:! (Just don't get a finger stuck between the two halves!:()
  9. NQ4T

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    If the PC has a Win 10 Pro license embedded in the BIOS; then the Windows install is always going to defer to the built-in license. If that's the case...there's really no reason to not use it.

    You can find out where the license is stored by hitting start, typing in Activation (like just start typing and the search box appears), and selecting Activation Settings. It will then tell you how your copy of Windows is licensed. As an example; this laptop came with Win 10 Home that I upgraded to Win 10 Pro; so my license is linked to my digital account. In theory, even if I have to reinstall; it should restore this license from my account. I've never had to reinstall any of my Win10 machines in the last 3 years so...I honestly have no clue what it does.

  10. 2E0CIT

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    Interesting to read about the perverse stateside law of software companies still owning the software after they have sold it !!

    In Europe the courts decided that software sold by the manufacturer becomes the property of the new owner and the software manufacturer does not retain ownership after they have sold the software.

    Just like if someone sells a house, car, boat or whatever to you.........they no longer own it!!!

    And you can sell it to someone else.

    This means one can buy, e.g. Windows 10 Pro with a legit license key here for a £10 or less. I'm using my £10 one now.

    It also means that software manufacturers are shifting away from selling their software to renting it in order to en$ure money is continually being tran$ferred from your owner$hip to their$.

    So, just like the factory owners of the industrial age, the rich and powerful interests, backed up by their political wing in all parties in Government,-those who make the 'Law', will own the tools of modern production. We will only be allowed to rent them and pay whatever they decide.

    In what world would you as an individual not be allowed to own a hammer, saw or lathe and be forced by 'Law' into always having to rent one from a massive financial concern. Certainly not a 'free world'.

    And I wonder if my 2007 version of Office which runs perfectly on Win 10 will run after the 'upgrade' to Win 11... or if they'll expect me to rent 365

    Oh no, -I've just remembered, they tell me Win 11 wont run on my absolutely splendid computer ...... so they'll expect me to buy a new one of those too.
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2021 at 10:29 PM
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