Has the ARRL sought PPP/CARES loans?

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  1. WE4B

    WE4B Ham Member QRZ Page

    Gee K6LCS, based on the tone of my posts, it’s clear to see that I left out a word so let’s clear it up here.

    I do NOT think it was ethically correct for AMSAT to accept taxpayer monies which should have gone to help bailout companies that were/are on the brink of failure.

    Any other questions? Like I said, members have the right to voice their opinions.

    Have a great day <grin>.
     
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  2. KA8NCR

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    If they met the qualifications, then your objection shouldn't be with AMSAT.
     
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  3. WE4B

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    Sure I can object. The org wasn’t failing. There was no need for money from taxpayers. They legally got the money. No question about that. My problem is that it wasn’t ethical and the fact that the Treasurer stayed that the organization was in an excellent financial position. It just seems to me to be a money grab when those funds could have helped someone save their business. Amateur radio is awesome fun but I would rather keep someone from losing a business rather than make a QSO.
     
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  4. ND6M

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    on the other hand, ........................shouldn't the organization be proactive and ensure the best financial balance to its members?
     
  5. WE4B

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    Not by adding debt to the balance sheet. Yes, I realize that the loans will be forgiven. There are just so many struggling mom & pop businesses tat truly do employ people that are failing or have failed that didn't get loans. These small businesses didn't have a six-figure number of money in the bank like AMSAT did. AMSAT was not going to fail. Yes, they qualified for the loan but what happened to doing the right thing? It just seems tacky that AMSAT got these funds. That's my opinion and, I realize, others have an opposing opinion.
     
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  6. NL7W

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    Unwarranted money grabs... it wouldn't surprise me if the League applied!
     
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  7. WE4B

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    I genuinely want to know if they did too. No reply from my Director on the subject but I let my membership lapse so I'm no longer important :)
     
  8. NL7W

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    Those that should not even bother applying and should not be receiving:
    • ARRL
    • AMSAT
    • Other Amateur-related 501C3's
    Those amateur radio-related businesses that should apply and receive:
    • R & L Electronics
    • HRO
    • Gigaparts
    • RadioCity
    • Universal Radio
    • DX Engineering
    • Cheapham
    • Texas Towers
    • Elecraft
    • TenTec
    • RT Systems
    • Any radio tower manufacturer
    • etc...
    :)
     
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  9. W3WN

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    That’s a nasty insinuation. If they didn’t, you owe them a public apology.
     
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  10. NL7W

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    I have a right to insinuate. What's "nasty" about it? Please do tell.

    I suppose I would at that. But, I doubt it's the case.

    I'm either right or wrong...

    50% / 50%.

    I will base my opinion -- or insinuation as you call it -- on past experience.
    For the League did go after federal grant dollars after 9/11/2001.
    Those public funds should have gone to public safety agencies, not wannabe's.
    Those were disingenuous attempts as well.
    Same goes for all the ham clubs that got "high-dollar stuff" as well.
     
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