HAMSEXY FORUM IS DANGEROUS

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by KB9YCO, Jun 10, 2004.

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  1. K6BBC

    K6BBC Senior Moderator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    And BTW - Hamsexy is the best ham site on the net.
     
  2. KG4CGC

    KG4CGC Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k6bbc @ June 10 2004,16:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb0uzr @ June 10 2004,19:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ June 10 2004,15:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I just checked out Hamsexy for the first time.

    Was enjoying the pictures and some of what was being said about Dayton. Then I transitioned to the finger pointing section.

    Between blasting fellow amateurs for poor attitudes (details included) and slaming extra operators I lost interest.

    It's a shame -- this site had real potential until the finger pointing started[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Yeah!
    It's a fair site for the regular Joe,,,But as a Christian,,There is too much stuff that isn't in good tast.
    So that'll exclude me. I'll be staying away from it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    What the hell does being a Christian have to do with good taste?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    He said &quot;There is too much stuff that isn't in good tast.&quot;
      Taste, has nothing to do with it. [​IMG]
     
  3. VE3HBD

    VE3HBD QRZ Member

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (VE3HBD @ June 09 2004,12:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
    Um, this board is based on Ikonboard, not PHPBB. Removing a thread on either is trival if you know SQL.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

    I meant using PHPBB to automatically send spam out to people who subscribe, not delete threads or whatever else you thought I was talking about!

    And hey... saying that we're the only ones with fingerpointing and blasting is ignoring the garden in which the flamewars grow fruitfully.... right here on QRZ.
     
  4. K9STH

    K9STH Ham Member QRZ Page

    I do not care what goes on over on another site! I do care what goes on regarding this site!

    As long as the &quot;rules of the road&quot; of QRZ.com are not violated, then I will allow discussions such as this particular thread to continue. However, I also think that it is better if the discussions about any particular site take place on that site and not elsewhere! Unless, of course, the owners of the site don't &quot;allow&quot; or even encourage such discussions on their site. Something to think about.

    Glen, K9STH
    One of the QRZ.com moderators
     
  5. VE3HBD

    VE3HBD QRZ Member

    Of course... we encourage discussions of all types on Hamsexy. We won't lock or delete threads that challenge us. Everyone is entitled their own opinion... hell, we encourage it. That's why we exist.

    We invite and encourage people to take their concerns with us to Hamsexy dot com.... Keep it over there, and leave it off this site. QRZ is a valuable resource in our hobby, and it should be kept that way.

    All are welcome to join and participate. We will not and do not discriminate, not based on your license class or if you like us or not. Free debate reigns.

    Nothing to 'think' about at all.
     
  6. K6BBC

    K6BBC Senior Moderator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ June 11 2004,06:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do not care what goes on over on another site!  I do care what goes on regarding this site!

    As long as the &quot;rules of the road&quot; of QRZ.com are not violated, then I will allow discussions such as this particular thread to continue.  However, I also think that it is better if the discussions about any particular site take place on that site and not elsewhere!  Unless, of course, the owners of the site don't &quot;allow&quot; or even encourage such discussions on their site.  Something to think about.

    Glen, K9STH
    One of the QRZ.com moderators[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    You will &quot;allow discussions?&quot; That's very nice of you Glen. Makes me proud to be a member of the ham fraternity.

    K6BBC
     
  7. KY5U

    KY5U Subscriber QRZ Page

    Guys,

    You have gotten some constructive criticizm and yes, some not so construtive too on HamSexy. All I see is defensiveness from you guys.

    You have a great idea going there and I personally hope it does well.
     
  8. K9STH

    K9STH Ham Member QRZ Page

    BBC:

    QRZ.com is NOT amateur radio! It is an Internet site that exists at the pleasure of AA7BQ, Fred Lloyd. As such, since there are specific &quot;rules of the road&quot;

    No profanity

    No obscenities

    No personal attacks

    and the fact that there is an effort by the various moderators to enforce these rules, then &quot;allowing&quot; certain topics of discussions is the proper terminology!

    An Internet site is just like someone's living room. The owner of the living room can most certainly limit both the tone and the topics of conversation in his/her abode. If the owner does not &quot;like&quot; the topic, or the &quot;tone&quot; of the conversation, then that person most certainly has a right to either ask someone who persists in continuing along the undesired line of communication to change the tone, change the topic, or to leave the premysis.

    The misunderstood principle of &quot;freedom of speech&quot; (which doesn't mean that you can say whatever you like whenever you like where ever you like) definitely does not apply to the Internet! This has been upheld by the courts just like it has been in other, similar, incidents. The owner of an Internet site, either by his/her own actions or through the actions of those persons appointed by the owner, can, indeed, limit the topics under discussion!

    In the &quot;real world&quot;, you will find that I am probably the most lenient of the QRZ.com staff. As such, I tend to allow a little more &quot;leeway&quot; in terms of subjects, language, humor, etc. But, I do have my limits and I do enforce them when necessary! Sometimes one of the other staff members gets really offended and shuts down a thread, bans a participant, or else contacts me about trying to calm down a particular participant or two (or three or four!).

    I do not like to recommend banning someone. However, I have done so in the past and will continue to do so in the future IF the participant insists on violating the &quot;rules of the road&quot; of QRZ.com!

    As such, I don't care what you, or anyone else, thinks about my &quot;allowing&quot; a topic to continue on this site. I am just trying to help out Fred by moderating this forum and the Questions &amp; Answers forum. If someone doesn't like how I do things they can complain to Fred at aa7bq@qrz.com or else &quot;lump it&quot;! Frankly, I don't get anything out of my efforts except headaches and pains in my posterior!

    Glen, K9STH
     
  9. KB9YCO

    KB9YCO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Don't sweat it Glen, most of us here appreciate your volunteer efforts and time, not to mention the fact that this is a free site with plenty of valuable information, a wonderful resource that has earned it's reputation as the best known amateur site. Many kudos are owed by many people here to QRZ.COM and the people that make it possible.
    I've never understood how anyone could get worked up about what they read on the internet anyway; who cares what happens on another website or what some random person thinks. Relax people, use it for what it's good for and disregard what you don't like, it's very easy.
     
  10. K6BBC

    K6BBC Senior Moderator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Glen, with all due respect, I believe you are incorrect in your comparison of qrz.com to ones living room. The Internet is a public forum. If you want to moderate, or control, or censor the content, make the site members only and password protected. Otherwise, celebrate the FREE exchange of ideas and take the good with the bad.

    So lets face the facts. On air ham radio is becoming a heaven for older, tired hams. Most conversations on the air are mind-numbing boredom. The hobby needs an influx on new, interesting, and even controversial ideas, though, and speech. Qrz provides that. So relax and be proud of the service you provide to so many.

    And keep that finger off the delete key.
     
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