Hams Map Powerlines for Low Frequency Interference

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KQ6XA, Sep 18, 2017.

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  1. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    I don't know what the rest of you are doing, but, I saved my "application/request/notification/ect before I submitted it

    so in a few years, the old "we don't have any record" routine won't work
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  2. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    to K6CLS,

    You're right.
    It also isn't possible to keep a huge visible electric grid a secret... it is out there in the open for the public to see.
    The maps of it are completely public and open source.

    Any citizen with a portable low frequency SDR waterfall display can simply drive near their local power line and scan for which frequencies of power line carriers are in use.

    They refused the ARRL's offer to manage and map the potential for interference.
    Now, it seems that it will be crowd-sourced and open-sourced :)
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2017
  3. AE9AM

    AE9AM Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    In a post 9/11 world it's probably going to be hard to leverage any info out of the power utilities that they don't want to give out, as they'll just go crying to Homeland Security if the FCC ever disagrees with them.

    Personally I have local distribution power lines running across the back yard, then big HV a couple hundred yards in parallel beyond that, and I'm sitting here trying to figure out how I can load those suckers up as passive elements or something :)
  4. KF1P

    KF1P Ham Member QRZ Page

    I just received the Operation Approved Letter from UTC ! ! !

    Now to build an antenna for one or both bands.
    RX we have...the TX...we will see.
    Looks like a Winter Project

    Attached Files:

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  5. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Congrats! Surprised the UTC actually issued such a letter. I was expecting that no response would be tacit approval. That puts me on edge until monday when my 30 days runs out. :eek:

    73 de John - WØPV
  6. WR2E

    WR2E Ham Member QRZ Page

    Me too, one hour ago!
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  7. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Anyone who gets rejected by UTC for proximity to a power line should post to this thread.
  8. K1XS

    K1XS XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Received my approval today too. I filed the same day Bonnie posted this article.
  9. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Approval received today too, both bands. Application sent day before OP (9-16-17).
  10. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    The whole notion that UTC has the power to "APPROVE" or "NOT APPROVE" is wrong.
    Also, the UTC's email reply is self-serving, erroneous, and probably violates the FCC ruling.
    They don't have the power to approve.
    They no force of law or rules to empower them to regulate ham radio.
    Their email response tries to wrap themselves with the air of authority that they are not authorized to invoke:
    "...amateur operators will be subject to FCC enforcement for unauthorized operations, as well as potential legal liability for damages that result from interference caused by amateur operations to PLC systems."
    The UTC's only duty under the FCC rule is to notify the radio operator, upon request, if they are within 1 kilometer of a PLC powerline. Period.
    There is no duty or cause for UTC to threaten licensed amateur radio operators with liability or enforcement.
    Only the FCC can do that.

    UTC is not a government agency.

    UTC is really nothing more than a club which has members, similar to ARRL.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2017
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